Plenty of examples yup. Point being, it is not strictly a wealth thing.The Beatles were mostly ‘working class’. The Who also? Black Sabbath?
Plenty of examples yup. Point being, it is not strictly a wealth thing.The Beatles were mostly ‘working class’. The Who also? Black Sabbath?
Yes, a lot of music comes out of poverty.Plenty of examples yup. Point being, it is not strictly a wealth thing.
Tracy Chapman is american.I forgot Black Sabbath and Deep Purple on my original list.
Also for balance, Joan Armatrading and Tracy Chapman, and Nitin Sawnhey.
But most of these are not massive big £££££££ players in my original thoughts on this topic.
I learned something there, I thought she was a Brit, have to take her off the list then.Tracy Chapman is american.
It's the 'special relationship'. The richness of British pop music - as opposed to say, that of the rest of Europe - is due to our deep cultural ties with the US. Modern popular music all fundamentally stems from black American music, i.e. jazz and rythmn & blues, and the history of British music is the story of our absorption of and reaction to that music (Beatles, Stones and all that followed). Of course along the way you get all sorts of strange English bits thrown in - folk music, European art music, etc.Pick a decade and notice how many of the biggest/popular bands or artists in the world are from these small islands.
Bowie, Floyd, Zeppelin, Queen, Beatles, The Who, Japan, Eno, Roxy Music, Elton, Radiohead, Stones, The Police, Fleetwood Mac (the majority, ahem!), Dire Straits, Genesis, Sex Pistols, Clash, Yes, Duran Duran, New Order, Joy Division, The Smiths, and loads of others.
Historically is this due to the extent of the English language spoken? Any ideas? The BBC? Empire?
Or raw talent from social adversity, I have no idea. I just find it interesting.
Or perhaps my own experience and music collection is just a little biased by growing up here in the UK.
I recently had a count up of how many artists bands I had, about 330, this must be the tip of the band/artist iceberg! I do have quite broad tastes, but suspect over 60% of it is UK.
I think you could well be correct there, a lot of bands/artists quote many American black musicians as influences. Some are even more obvious in the use of black american music, Mr Plant for instance. and as you say stones and beatles.It's the 'special relationship'. The richness of British pop music - as opposed to say, that of the rest of Europe - is due to our deep cultural ties with the US. Modern popular music all fundamentally stems from black American music, i.e. jazz and rythmn & blues, and the history of British music is the story of our absorption of and reaction to that music (Beatles, Stones and all that followed). Of course along the way you get all sorts of strange English bits thrown in - folk music, European art music, etc.
King Crimson were even more extreme.I think you could well be correct there, a lot of bands/artists quote many American black musicians as influences. Some are even more obvious in the use of black american music, Mr Plant for instance. and as you say stones and beatles.
Some links are less obvious as with a lot of Floyd and others. Although I have heard Mr Gilmour describe WYWH title track as a nice little country music song.
I guess the common language helps, and I imagine the UK proliferation around the globe for good or ill. Must have had some impact on people returning to the UK from all over.
Some appear to have little in common with what has become world music, like Yes or Sex Pistols to look at extremes. Mind you having watched the sex pistols and other punk bands on youtube recently it struck me how close to distorted R&B riffs a lot of it sounded. That's the old R&B, not black R&B.
....sounds to me like someone doing a bad impression of a pub singer.Adele
He's covering UK artists...Interesting that the OP has no black artists in his roster. If we add Bob Marley, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Al Green, Michael Jackson, NWA, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, who are all amazing, American (in a broadly geographical sense), and also black, and don't get me started on the wonderful world of African artists, then maybe the picture would look a little different?
For those with a classical predilection I do hope we don't forget our Germanic cousins: Beethoven, Bach, Handel, Mozart, Mahler, Wagner and a host more.
I think the water is influencing your taste, not vice versa Mr Tom's Wait
There is also tons of Blues in Floyd. And yes, both UK and US punk comes from 60s US garage bands, Stooges, MC5, etc - who in turn were drawing on earlier R&B such as Bo Diddley. A nice example of all this would be the song 'Louie Louie' - originally an RnB song written in 1955 by black doo wop artist Richard Berry, this became a hit for the Kingsmen in 1963, then was picked up by Iggy & The Stooges and later became a punk anthem, which in turn influenced Joy Division and became a live favourite of theirs.I think you could well be correct there, a lot of bands/artists quote many American black musicians as influences. Some are even more obvious in the use of black american music, Mr Plant for instance. and as you say stones and beatles.
Some links are less obvious as with a lot of Floyd and others. Although I have heard Mr Gilmour describe WYWH title track as a nice little country music song.
I guess the common language helps, and I imagine the UK proliferation around the globe for good or ill. Must have had some impact on people returning to the UK from all over.
Some appear to have little in common with what has become world music, like Yes or Sex Pistols to look at extremes. Mind you having watched the sex pistols and other punk bands on youtube recently it struck me how close to distorted R&B riffs a lot of it sounded. That's the old R&B, not black R&B.
Once upon a time "R&B" meant "rhythm and blues" and it certainly meant "black" music. These days the term is applied to "black" music but it sure ain't "rhythm and blues".That's the old R&B, not black R&B.
I'd forgotten that about Floyd, on a lot of bootlegs there is a blues jam at the end of the concert.There is also tons of Blues in Floyd. And yes, both UK and US punk comes from 60s US garage bands, Stooges, MC5, etc - who in turn were drawing on earlier R&B such as Bo Diddley. A nice example of all this would be the song 'Louie Louie' - originally an RnB song written in 1955 by black doo wop artist Richard Berry, this became a hit for the Kingsmen in 1963, then was picked up by Iggy & The Stooges and later became a punk anthem, which in turn influenced Joy Division and became a live favourite of theirs.
....sounds to me like someone doing a bad impression of a pub singer.
I had a look and that is an impressive roster, I also found Kitchens of Distinction, I had forgotten about them, I had their albums.Through the late 70's up to the late 90's pretty much all pop/A&R/indy went though Chipping Norton studio, unbelivable talent was squandered by record labels, some utter dross made top 5 chart entries but many were spectacular artists that today's guff couldn't put a candle to. 90% of the bands were UK and from all creeds, colours and culture.
Apart from Grime, because that ear$h1t didn't exist then thank goodness.
Feast your mincers on this:
https://www.discogs.com/label/264729-Chipping-Norton-Recording-Studios