World Music Season BBC 4..... kicks off Friday 23rd August. Unmissable.

[Guest]

BBC 4 kicks off a new world music season on Friday August 23 with the documentary How to be a World Music Star that follows the growth of world music since the 80s.

The first instalment of a three-part series traces the careers of the Bhundu Boys, Baaba Maal, Buena Vista Social Club and Mariza in an exploration of what it takes to become a global music star.

Everything you need to know about "World Music" but where afraid to ask.

Had me welded to the screen the whole evening.

Massively looking forward to the Flamenco episode.

On the iPlayer now.

Shall watch it again, this time with pen & paper at the ready.

 

[Hornucopia]

Recorded it.

Was like watching the past +25 years of my music listening!

Was feeling sorry for my poor (Cafe) staff who had to put up with the 'weird' music over the years!

Flamenco programme soon! Great. Along with Fado, my favourite.

 

[Valvebloke]

I caught the start of it, not sure whether it would be my cup of tea, but it was great ! The enthusiasm of the genre's champions over here, Andy Kershaw for example, was infectious and the talent and commitment of the musicans themselves was brought out very well I thought. I have Mariza's Fado em Mim already but as a result of last night I'm going to see if I can get hold of the Bundhu Boys' Shabini and something by Tinariwen, maybe Aman Iman or Tassili. I'll also be looking out for the next programme.

VB

 

[Baggawire]

In my younger days it was always Womad rather than Glastonbury that I would look forward to. Next week's profile of Yossou N'Dour - pictured in the OP should be good. Absolutely fantastic voice although Baaba Maal just edges it in my opinion - the Djamm Leelii album with Mansour Seck is one of the best ever african recordings.

 

[Hornucopia]

Flamenco Programme on Sunday night BBC4.

The "World Music' prog is repeated later after it, if you want to record. Definitely worth it.

Maybe move people on from Metallica? I doubt it.....

 

[Baggawire]

The Wam's not exactly broad in it's musical tastes Chris - look how many responses there have been to this thread. If you ever exhibit at Scalford and want to clear the room play some afrobeat - works a treat.

 

[Guest]

Its made me aware of some serious gaps in my record collection i.e Africa.

Baaba Maal blew my bloody socks clean off.

Although TBH I just found the whole programme an utter joy to watch.

And I've found someone on the wam who loves Flamenco :shock:

Nice one Chris.

Any recommendation on must buy vinyl, much appreciated.

 

[pure sound]

In the late 80's early 90's I started going to the Womad festivals that were held in Reading in those days. It really opened my eyes and ears to a whole variety of styles & made me think how limited conventional western AOR type music really was. Seeing people like Ali Farka Toure, Femi Kuti, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Baaba Maal, Dr Remmy Ongala, Taraf de Haidouks etc was an extraordinary experience. Baaba Maal put on a spectacular show & the music was both incredibly complex & intricate while being extremely rewarding once you got your head round the multiple intersecting rhythms that swung into & out of of synch with each other. I still don't think I've heard anything quite like it since.

It certainly made the limitations of yer typical 3 angry young blokes & a drummer all too obvious.

Then we had kids & it wasn't practical to go any more!

I'll try to catch the repeat on Sunday.

 

[Hornucopia]

The Flamenco programme was, at best, Flamenco Lite, or at least CONTENT lite!

At best a slight taste, but no more. Difficult in just an hour programme, I guess.

"I just happened to find this group of people (in their best clothes...) in a room singing......" scenario grated a bit!

The goat herd singer appealed best as being more 'real' somehow.

It's a raw place, though I suppose modern life is changing that.

 

[Guest]

The Flamenco programme was, at best, Flamenco Lite, or at least CONTENT lite!At best a slight taste, but no more. Difficult in just an hour programme, I guess.

"I just happened to find this group of people (in their best clothes...) in a room singing......" scenario grated a bit!

The goat herd singer appealed best as being more 'real' somehow.

It's a raw place, though I suppose modern life is changing that.

The programme seemed scared to delve too far into the past, especially if the footage was black & white.

A bit like Punk, true forms are fleeting & get rapidly watered down.

The goat-herder got closest for me too.

http://www.andalucia.com/flamenco/history.htm

worth a look.

 

[Hayward]

The Wam's not exactly broad in it's musical tastes Chris - look how many responses there have been to this thread. If you ever exhibit at Scalford and want to clear the room play some afrobeat - works a treat.

Ha! Most Wammers aren't interested in music period. Look at how populated the music section is compared to the rest of the site. Not only that, any music for dancing to goes down like the proverbial lead balloon. African dance music? :rofl:

I always get an education round yours (or mine for that matter) and look forward to a bit more of that!

 

[barry2tone]

Ha! Most Wammers aren't interested in music period. Look at how populated the music section is compared to the rest of the site. Not only that, any music for dancing to goes down like the proverbial lead balloon. African dance music? :rofl: I always get an education round yours (or mine for that matter) and look forward to a bit more of that!

Not always. ;-)

http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?19482-The-Electronic-Music-Thread&p=1629337&viewfull=1#post1629337

I've been on a bit of nu-cumbia theme, too.

Not been thrown out yet.

 

[Hayward]

Not always. ;-) http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?19482-The-Electronic-Music-Thread&p=1629337&viewfull=1#post1629337

ah... The exception that proves the rule you are one of the handful of people that posts in that thread (a genre I have little knowledge of). Is there an afrobeat one?

 

[rockmeister]

I love the stuff, but missed this thread and the TV progs, so ...I think there's a ton of us who started out from Gracelands, via Ladysmith and moved on...I only own 40 or so world music albums, from Africa and India mostly, but there's not a bad one amongst them.

 

[Hornucopia]

See! Old age has it's (slight?-aching from allotment this morning!) advantages.

I guess I started on 'World' music in mid 60s, with Ravi Shankar.Then Reggae in early 70s.....

But have always been interested in odd stuff, so have discovered all sorts of music, as visitors to my place occasionally discover!

Last 15+ years, have even seen/heard a good bit at St George's Concert hall here; first saw Mariza there after a long wait, having 'found' Fado in the 80s.

Love Flamenco.

Brazilian. Fado.....

If you want to find out more on 'World' music, try reading 'Songlines' magazine.

About to get rid of mine, issues 1-onwards. (space needed!)

 

[barry2tone]

ah... The exception that proves the rule you are one of the handful of people that posts in that thread (a genre I have little knowledge of). Is there an afrobeat one?

Spent about 50 mins searching the Electronic thread, but can't find my own post. :doh:

I checked if it was ok to spead the focus a bit to include world electronica, or if a seperate thread would be more appropriate.

No comments came back, so I've kept dicing stuff between there and Awesome TuYoube, with it's jukebox format.

I'm groping towards making a point here about how musical sharing takes place on the Wigwam.

Focused areas, e.g afrobeat, are going to be smaller than general purpose, and don't create critical mass since

a) the site's too big to try and take it all in.

b) searching doesn't always find stuff you know is in here.

Are there any information flow designers out there?

My hunch is that jukebox, open ended "umbrella" threads work best for sharing/discovering, but are then difficult to get specifics back from.

I suppose "tags" could help, but musical genres are constantly moving target.

There are several regular contibutors I watch with interest, simply since they listen far, wide, and new. :^

 

[Leonard Smalls]

I enjoyed the flamenco prog as well, despite the scarcity of actual flamenco!

It's a difficult balance in a music programme, but I find that the default is usually more interview/voice over and less music...

 

[Sloop John B]

must look for this on iPlayer, my 2 favourite albums of the year so far are (loosely) world music.

Monoswezi - The Village

Yasmin Hamdan - Ya Nass

SJB

 

[monad]

I am missing radio4's "world routes" prog that use to be on saturday afternoons... especially when they were on location and unearthed some very old music traditions... womad is a bit to "exotic pop" for me...