Cairn 4808 amp, Stello CDA320 CDP & Triangle Naïa speakers

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System Review: Cairn 4808 amp, Stello CDA320 CD player and Triangle Stratos 260 “Naïa†loudspeakers:

I’d intended to do the usual separate reviews of my new system, but it’s difficult – any one of these components might possibly sound pretty duff slotted into the wrong system, but together they are making sweet-sweet music! So...

Cairn 4808

This is a full-width, French-built silver box (also available in black) with a blue porthole in the front and two mammiform :bouncey:controls to either side of it, while on top a series of six circular grille vents provide rather more than ample cooling to the transistors within. Styling is kind of “Chord liteâ€, but not cheesily so.

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Casework is all anodised aluminium, with a simple semi-matt finish on the centimetre-thick alloy front panel, and brushed on the main wrap. Chassis is black-painted steel.

Around the back are 5 RCA inputs plus one XLR, and two RCA preamplified outputs, a tape loop, one set of the usual gold-plated multiway speaker binding posts, plusa dedicated headphone output – something of a rarity at this price level nowadays. All socketry is of decent quality – better than theiffy stuff seen on much similarly-priced equipment nowadays – with plugs fitting good and tight into robust sockets!
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The display, for my taste, is the nicest I’ve ever seen – it’s a circular LCD screen in shades of agreeable blue-green. Volume is indicated both by a series of small bars resembling the minute/second digits on a clock and by a numeric log dB scale. Sources are labelled in the usual manner, while a miniscule symbol tells you which output is selected. The display can be switched off, indeed after a set time it switches itself off to save energy, which I find mildly annoying, but display brightness cannot be varied, which is a pity because it could usefully be brighter.

Although all functions can be controlled by the rather ordinary remote control, the main controls are a delight to use. That on the right hand controls on/standby (press and briefly hold) and volume (rotate); the system remembers previous settings when in standby mode, otherwise defaulting to a sensibly low output after a complete power-down. The left hand control defaults to source selection, but if pushed-in will deliver a series of options, including output selection, tape modes, and Left/Right channel balance.

Operation of any of these has absolutely no negative effect on sound whatsoever, and there is no discernable cross-channel interference. A big part of the reason for this is that all internal switching is relay actuated, even the resistor ladder-array volume control – which here is silent unlike other amps that have passed through my hands.

Internally, component quality is high – power is supplied by three transformers: a small encapsulated unit is dedicated to providing power to the pre-amp board, which is mounted behind the front panel; while two disproportionately large toroidals (actually sourced from Toroid in Sweden) supply power to left and right channels – this unit is fully dual-mono. Capacitors are a mixture of polypropylene, a few polyesters and aluminium electrolytics by a variey of middle-ground companies; resistors are all fine tolerance metal film - again from varied sources, while chips and small transistors are an assortment of middle-ranking to cheap – but never low-rent – brands. Functionality seems to have dictated choice throughout.

Component layout gives short signal paths via chunky PCBs, and places the transformers well away from signal circuitry - hidden behind the large thick-walled internal heatsink.

Operation is curious, this is the “Classe A†model (there’s a more-powerful “Face Nord†version), which outputs a mighty 30 Watts using temperature-mediated biasing to provide true class A in the first 10 Watts, A/B over the remainder. In operation this manifests itself as unexpectedly cool running (barely gets tepid no matter how hard it is driven - in stark contrast with the Musical Fidelity X-kit it replaces), with a warm smooth top end, and very liquid and articulate mids and most notably lower frequencies – which are uncommonly supple.

I’ve tried it with a variety of loudspeakers from Neat Elites to the mighty Focal Nova Utopias, and its sound clearly favours large, sensitive loudspeakers, preferably built in France! The Triangles provide a match made in… well… Zone Industrielle Les Etomelles to be exact – the same industrial estate as Cairn, and given the two companies use one-another’s kit in development, some useful synergy is to be expected…

…And that expectation is lived up to. The Cairn amp is indecently punchy in the bass for something of such seemingly low output: with the Triangles in its grip and suitable music playing, genuine visceral impact is achieved without strain or congestion.

Mids are superbly articulate – though not impinging on the best valve or fully class A kit, they at least give the latter something to think about – vocals in particular can be unnervingly convincing: plays can have me leaping to answer the phone or go to the door if my attention wanders… Oh well, I need the exercise…

Compared to a lot of solid state kit the top end is warm and even very slightly fuzzy – it’s here that the Cairn will be loved or loathed. Personally I’m tired of shrieky squeaky trannies, so it has come as a great relief to me - and not one I am growing tired of. Again synergy with the Triangles’ horn-loaded Titanium tweeter is a big part of the answer: nothing seems to be missing, yet nothing splits the eardrum unless the mastering engineer intended it… (the git)

Stello CDA320

In some respects the Stello CDA320 bears a remarkable likeness to the Cairn amp – same “soft†looking silver finish to the thick, full-width aluminium front panel, same brushed alloy wrap, even the buttons are rounded and mammiform – if smaller than the Cairn’s pair of whoppers.

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The display is an old-style and fairly basic blue fluorescent – it is at leastreasonably clear, but is annoyingly bright, and cannot be either dimmed or switched-off: this is by far my biggest source of annoyance with this machine – so pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.

Sonically, when teamed with other amps, its soundbears some resemblance to the Cairn, perhaps due to its fully balanced class-A output stage, but more of that later.

Physically it’s a big brute, both significantly taller and deeper than the amp, and weighing nearly as much, and that space is not for show, as the interior is packed. Besides "red-book" CDs, it's happy with PCM CD-Rs and CD-RWs, but not much else - HDCD, MP3, SACD and DVD-A formats are not utilised.

The CDA320 is a versatile piece of kit – it’s a 24 bit non-upsampling CD player, it’s a 24 bit 96KHz upsampling CD player, it’s a 24 bit 192KHz upsampling CD player, and it’s a DAC with the same options – one that can accept 3 different external digital sources (2 x Toslink, 1 x RCA)! And its final output can be rendered via unbalanced RCAs or fully-balanced XLRs…

If that smacks of gimmickry don’t despair, because MOST of it works very well indeed – the exception arguably being the switchable upsampling, which even though using discrete circuits with quite different chips, makes only sonically insignificant changes to the sound. I tend to stick with 24/192 as this gives the best soundstaging and most usefully extended and “airy†treble. 24/96 can seem more “organic†somehow, and 24/0 can avoid congestion in a few tracks – but the differences are not to me important.

However this machine’s ability as a versatile DAC is one hell of a godsend if you use other digital sources. In particular DAB radio has been transformed beyond what I would think possible – it’s not just listenable, it’s thoroughly enjoyable! Even lower bitrate stations sound good, and with my current (admittedly budget) tuner, I now much prefer the DAB versions of radios 3 and 4 to their FM progenitors.

Inside the box is scarcely any floorspace (MF: get your coat:minikiev:) – boards are packed, power supplies carefully regulated with each subsection getting its own regulated supply, while overall the digital and analogue stages are as discrete as possible – each having its own dedicated toroidal transformer. The transport and laser are the familiar Philips VAM 1202/16, though I note the associated digital board seems better specified than the otherwise identical unit in the MF X-RayV3.

Component quality isalso very good, with notably pricey regulators sprinkled around, Burr-Brown op-amps, and a clearly carefully-selected mixture of metal and carbon film resistors, often significantly over-specced. Board layout places digital and analogue sections well apart at the cost of slightly more tortuous signal paths.

Sonically, this player had to slot into a familiar system which used a much-modified MF X-RayV3 as transport, much-modified X-DACv3 (24/192) and very-much modified X-10v3 tube buffer with external power supplies for the latter two, giving a 4-box system capable of performing well beyond its original price range. Add to that that I didn’t expect the Stello to sound much different because, in common with a few forumites, I’d become quite jaded about the sonic differences (or lack) between widely-differing CDPs – not least because the Stello used an identical drive to the MF.

So maybe it’s that class-A output stage mentioned earlier, or maybe it’s some deep secret ofpainstaking design, or maybe it's a woo-woo mystery of system synergy - I don’t know, but what I do know is that the Stello takes what the MF kit could do – tremendous insight and detail, and adds levels of pace, drive, rhythm and musical involvement that the MF never had. At the same time the Stello subtracts the MF’s ruthlessness – gone is the searing treble and glare of early CD masters. Add to that the one-box convenience and the transformation of digital radio, and for my needs at least the CDA 320 is true World Class audio!

Triangle Naïa loudspeakers

Triangle make a lot of loudspeakers that shouldn’t work – teetering 9 foot tall pillars with whole driver arrays hidden round the back, and massive standmounts that can do bass in room down to 25Hz but can be a bitch to integrate. The hifi press reacts accordingly, with suspicion and scepticism, at least until they hear them, then they lavish praise. Likewise the buying public are wary of big brash floorstanders where far more has been spent on the drive units and crossovers than on the charcoal painted baffles and vinyl-wrapped cabinets of their best-known “Esprit†range. And they’re French, too…

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I was one of those, and in spite of a number of people who actually know what they’re talking about espousing their virtues, I kept a closed mind right up to the point when I first heard the Cairn amp, and discovered Cairn’s relationship with Triangle…

But why the Naïas? Well that’s pure happy accident – until I checked Triangle importers UKD’s website (http://www.ukd.co.uk/) I didn’t even know they existed! But there they were – Graaf had ordered a pair of them as demonstrators, changed their mind about finish and cancelled these and ordered another colour. So a brand new pair of speakers for half price, in beautiful real cherrywood veneer.

Only one small problem – they were far too big for my tiny house..

In theory…

Bollocks to theory – only one way to find out…. Well nigh killed me lugging around those damn great 40 Kilo boxes on my own, but am I ever glad I did, because they’ve proved to be the speakers I’ve been hoping for!

The Naïas are second up the Stratos range, which sits between the much better-known and excellent Esprits, and the super high-end Magellans. They utilise much-braced 22mm MDF/HDF cabinets with flawless real wood veneers, and drivers slightly dumbed-down from the Magellan range.

The main drivers are based on massively strong 6-inch diameter cast-alloy baskets, huge magnets, and cellulose cones; the midrange driver adds low hysteresis fabric surrounds and a fixed rubber phase-plug, while the 2 bass drivers use neoprene surrounds and dome-in-cellulose-cone diaphragms. Treble is provided by a large, time aligned cast-alloy horn-loaded titanium diaphragm compression unit, which weighs more than the bass units in most of the speakers I’ve owned before…

They are true 3-ways, with the enclosure divided into 2 - the smaller upper part embracing the treble and midrange drivers is unvented, while the much larger lower chamberhas a single large front port to enhance the bass; both chambers are undamped, making the cabinet a little lively at times, but benefitting in a very fast, open sound. They stand a not insubstantial 1.2 metres high in their socks, and are a little wider than average nowadays, and deep as well….

Crossovers are complex, fourth-order double-decker designs that use quality PIO caps etc., mounted to the very solid cast-alloy binding-post holders: even the bits you don’t see are beautifully put together. Sensitivity is high at 93dB, but impedance can drop near 4 Ohms, though is nominally 8 Ohms. In practice, 30 Watts is Plenty!

They also come supplied with complicated cast alloy bases with a huge spike at the front plus four more in an outrigger arrangement: I’ve yet to actually assemble and try these as they simply sound great on my home-made isolating platforms, and are a little less visually intrusive that way!

Much is made in the hifi press and amongst self-appointed pundits of “brightness†in Triangle speakers, and I almost sort of agree – they certainly leave nothing out in the upper ranges, but what they never do in my system is get shrill, shouty or metallic: they simply refuse to cause me acoustic pain at any time – I just can’t say that of any other pair of speakers I’ve ever had in my system!

Midrange too is utterly adorable – due in no small part to that dedicated midrange driver. I Really like proper 3-way speakers, they appeal to the head, because drivers can be more carefully tuned to their task with a narrower bandwidth to handle, and they appeal to my heart, because in my experience they simply sound more convincingly musical and real.

But bass is where the surprise lies – it should overwhelm in my small front room, but it never does: the bass simply never booms – even when it’s forcing your liver up into your ribcage! It’s very controlled – these are not in-your-face bass-monsters - but not dry or light in any way. It is very lyrical – obviously that’s in no small part the work of the amplifier, but for the amp to do its best the drive units must be both powerful and easy to control: quite a difficult thing to reconcile in practice. First impression will depend on music played, too, because what these transducers do give you as near as they can, is just the music on the disc – if there’s no low bass, you won’t hear Any, but if there is it goes loooooooooooooow….....a test track that kicks-in at 25Hz is immediately audible in-room on start-up…

Another criticism I’ve seen levelled at larger Triangles is that they tend to stratify sound – meaning all treble at one altitude, all mid next, then bass lower down. This is as fine a piece of psychoacoustic babble as I’ve seen: occasionally imaging may coincide to give something of that impression, but what these speakers do more than anything I’ve heard this side of a giant pair of Focals on a super high-end system, is to layer the soundstage top to bottom, as well as side-to-side and front-to-back. The effect is downright strange on some recordings, being chiefly the result of studio tinkerings, but where a more natural acoustic exists, then voices and instruments are presented just where they ought to be. The soundstage has all of the dimensionality my room can allow - scale, presence and height like no-other I've yet used.

Similarly, it’s often said that the dispersion of horn-loaded tweeters is very beam-like. While that may be true of some, the Naïas are noticeably less directional than both of their predecessors (silk dome and area-drive ribbon respectively); indeed they’re pretty unfussy about room position, though due probably to room modes I do like to get in just as close to these as I did with the PMCs – mebbe it’s just me?

Golly, I do like these!

In summary, for the (ex-dem) price I paid for this (nearly) new system I could buy a boring-but-effective secondhand car of about 5 years age – so to some I have been hopelessly extravagant (especially considering the growing decrepitude of my own vehicle); similarly in the Ship of Audiophools, the sum spent is trivial compared to many. But for me this is Baby Bear’s Porridge: music is my chief recreation, I don’t give a stuff about cars, I don’t even have a telly, so this is just right – if I get fair prices for my previous kit I shouldn’t be much out of pocket, and the new ensemble would for me be Very difficult to beat*. Just witness all of the sleepless nights lately… Are You still playing Your music when the cocks start crowing?

Pleased of Sodbury :green:

*feel free to quote me in 6 months time!

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GJO wrote:

Nice bit of kit there Earl,hope you got central heating !!!
:lmao:Ta - didn't used to need the C/H with the MF on...

 
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Informative and highly interesting write up there Earl
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Must admit it was a bolt out of the blue when you announced the purchase of this ensemble, as none of the names aregenerally on the shortlists of top recommendations for audition in this and other forums. The fact that they aren't is a real commendation for you and testimony if it was ever needed that there is some really sublime kit out there that deservesmore frequentmention.

I have heard the Stello player in actionand of course I own a pair of Triangles myself so the clarity and poise from both I would imagine is a verygood pairing. Now you and Ant have both heaped much praise on the Cairn amps I would like to put one through it's paces in my own system
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Well matched kit.

Big 3 ways in small rooms can work.

The extra bottom end helps the treble to soar and the pounding of the guts can easily be felt but only when it is on the track.

Even simple music like Damien Rice has great bass underpinnings possibly lower than a lot of "rock"

Get hold of Chezi test disc or try Missy Elliot Get your Freak on. It will rearrange the furniture for you
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Its going to cost a great deal to better what you have now from the synergy you describe.

Enjoy it. When the Impressions arrived SWMBO called her friends round that night because the music sounded so good and I think we had eight or nine bodies from teenagers upwards playing theur fav track.

Good hi-fi helps musical enjoyment for those of us who arn't musicians as they seem able to pick up a tune or groove even if its played on a string in a tin can.

 
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Informative and highly interesting write up there Earl
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Must admit it was a bolt out of the blue when you announced the purchase of this ensemble, as none of the names aregenerally on the shortlists of top recommendations for audition in this and other forums. The fact that they aren't is a real commendation for you and testimony if it was ever needed that there is some really sublime kit out there that deservesmore frequentmention.

I have heard the Stello player in actionand of course I own a pair of Triangles myself so the clarity and poise from both I would imagine is a verygood pairing. Now you and Ant have both heaped much praise on the Cairn amps I would like to put one through it's paces in my own system
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You've hit the nail on the head, ironically because you were the inspiration to try something different - something that the pundits and press overlook or even slate. Having heard some of the kit you've experimented with made me realise that mostgeneralisations were inaccurate, and that in the end, for me,system synergy counted for the most.

That said, the Cairn amps I've heard will all split opinions quite strongly, so approach with caution... I love 'em, YMMV.

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yoda900 wrote:

Well matched kit. Big 3 ways in small rooms can work.

The extra bottom end helps the treble to soar and the pounding of the guts can easily be felt but only when it is on the track.

Even simple music like Damien Rice has great bass underpinnings possibly lower than a lot of "rock"

Get hold of Chezi test disc or try Missy Elliot Get your Freak on. It will rearrange the furniture for you
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Its going to cost a great deal to better what you have now from the synergy you describe.

Enjoy it. When the Impressions arrived SWMBO called her friends round that night because the music sounded so good and I think we had eight or nine bodies from teenagers upwards playing theur fav track.

Good hi-fi helps musical enjoyment for those of us who arn't musicians as they seem able to pick up a tune or groove even if its played on a string in a tin can.
Bang right on all counts Yoda.

My better half was VERY sceptical when she saw the Triangles, and she's always quick to criticise my self-indulgences: I played just one track, and after a long perios of uncharacteristic silence, her comment was "I see why you like these...". She was too gobsmacked to say anything else, and she actually kept quiet and listened to the music - an unimaginably rare occurrence! :lmao:

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Another good write up, Earl!6 months, eh?

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Ta
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...er, well... I do have a programme of modifications under way...
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Will post on DIY section...

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Effem wrote:

Now you and Ant have both heaped much praise on the Cairn amps I would like to put one through it's paces in my own system
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If I'm ever in your neck of the woods I'll pack the Mea's into the car and you can have a listen.
 

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Earl, as ever an excellent write up and it reveals several things to me, that I myself have realised thus far this year.

First I'm not surprised at the comments made by yourself regarding the Cairn integrated, listening to Ant's Cairn monos at duvet's bake off showed how musical these little amps were. what I enjoyed about Ant's amps were the total lack of hifi artifice, they just let music come out with no pretence or highlighting anything superfluous to the music. On the day I heard Ant's Cairns they were the best sounding stuff that day (to my ears of course).

I've had limited experience with Triangle speakers, other than within the context of shows. Last year with a friend I got to hear their budget bookshelfs and they were very enjoyable.

The stello is completely new to me.

From my experience of buying italian gear this year it has highlighted to me that reviewers in this country have, frankly, lost the plot. I continually hear about rolled off extremes and soft, safe sounding components. My experience differs from this, what the Italian gear has shown me is that you can have detail AND be musical at the same time - the two aren't exclusive. I get the feeling this French gear is within the same context. this point was proven to me when hearing the Jmlabs at Tony's gaff recently.

Having sat and listened to your old system - both with Neats and PMC speakers - I would guess that the sound you are currently getting is quite far removed from where you were with that kit ?

I'm not surprised you are enjoying this setup so much, I've felt the same since going Italian, and it's interesting to read your comments, you are discussing music without mentioning hifi crapola much more when describing this system.

I'm glad you are enjoying it, maybe we'll need to force ourselves on to you again some time next year
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, would seriously like to hear the Audio Analogue Maestro going through your setup, and also to get a chance for the Orbe/Dorian/Aria through it as well.

I have a sneaky feeling I'd like whatI would hear.

 

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Great positive write up and something I love to read. Congrats on the system.

It just shows how important system synergy is andthat there is an awful lot of gear out there that gets ignored by the press.

I agree with Griffo about the musicality of Italien gear. I have been on that path for some years, and I suspect thatearls french combo of amp and speakers are not too dissimilarfrom this. I always think thatone knows when the system is musical. It's addictive, hence baggy eyes, sleepless nights etc..

So wishing you many musical and joyfilled times with the new members of the sodbury household.

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griffo104 wrote:

Earl, as ever an excellent write up and it reveals several things to me, that I myself have realised thus far this year.First I'm not surprised at the comments made by yourself regarding the Cairn integrated, listening to Ant's Cairn monos at duvet's bake off showed how musical these little amps were. what I enjoyed about Ant's amps were the total lack of hifi artifice, they just let music come out with no pretence or highlighting anything superfluous to the music. On the day I heard Ant's Cairns they were the best sounding stuff that day (to my ears of course).

I've had limited experience with Triangle speakers, other than within the context of shows. Last year with a friend I got to hear their budget bookshelfs and they were very enjoyable.

The stello is completely new to me.

From my experience of buying italian gear this year it has highlighted to me that reviewers in this country have, frankly, lost the plot. I continually hear about rolled off extremes and soft, safe sounding components. My experience differs from this, what the Italian gear has shown me is that you can have detail AND be musical at the same time - the two aren't exclusive. I get the feeling this French gear is within the same context. this point was proven to me when hearing the Jmlabs at Tony's gaff recently.

Having sat and listened to your old system - both with Neats and PMC speakers - I would guess that the sound you are currently getting is quite far removed from where you were with that kit ?

I'm not surprised you are enjoying this setup so much, I've felt the same since going Italian, and it's interesting to read your comments, you are discussing music without mentioning hifi crapola much more when describing this system.

I'm glad you are enjoying it, maybe we'll need to force ourselves on to you again some time next year
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, would seriously like to hear the Audio Analogue Maestro going through your setup, and also to get a chance for the Orbe/Dorian/Aria through it as well.

I have a sneaky feeling I'd like whatI would hear.
Cheers Griffo, I'll be holding another bakeoff in the new year, and would love to hear some of your kit in the system
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Yup, the new system is Very different to the MF...

I completely concur with your observations concerning journalistic portrayal of certain types of hifi. While many journosare hard-working and conscientious, some give the impression of being wholly set in their ways, minds closed; that notwithstanding, I know for a fact that some reviews are also rushed-through extremely rapidly, and that distributors commonly supply box-fresh kit which never even approaches being run-in before it is assessed; lastly the issue of system synergy - e.g. if all you ever use for assessment is Naim kit is it any wonder that certain speaker manufacturer's are always praised, while others always condemned?

Not a finger of blame, more a caveat we all need to be aware of when using reviews to choose kit!

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earl of sodbury wrote:

I completely concur with your observations concerning journalistic portrayal of certain types of hifi. While many journosare hard-working and conscientious, some give the impression of being wholly set in their ways, minds closed; that notwithstanding, I know for a fact that some reviews are also rushed-through extremely rapidly, and that distributors commonly supply box-fresh kit which never even approaches being run-in before it is assessed; lastly the issue of system synergy - e.g. if all you ever use for assessment is Naim kit is it any wonder that certain speaker manufacturer's are always praised, while others always condemned?

Not a finger of blame, more a caveat we all need to be aware of when using reviews to choose kit!

churz, eofs
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A great comment on reviewers there, couldn't agree more. It's a shame so many people put so much stock in their comments.

I really hate to say it, but the recent issue of hifi+ with the four complete systems being chosen by 4 reviewers and then sent around each other was actually a very interesting read, even though I disagree with some points it raised. However it was a good stab at trying to discussthe 'system' as a whole.

Just because component A gets a poor review doesn't mean that when partenered between component B and C it doesn't make magical music.

enjoy listening to the tunes, Earl
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Vic Mackey wrote:

Great positive write up and something I love to read. Congrats on the system. It just shows how important system synergy is andthat there is an awful lot of gear out there that gets ignored by the press.

I agree with Griffo about the musicality of Italien gear. I have been on that path for some years, and I suspect thatearls french combo of amp and speakers are not too dissimilarfrom this. I always think thatone knows when the system is musical. It's addictive, hence baggy eyes, sleepless nights etc..

So wishing you many musical and joyfilled times with the new members of the sodbury household.

Vic
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Cheers Vic - I appreciate the sentiment, and Stan sounds dam good on it BTW
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Vic Mackey wrote:

I agree with Griffo about the musicality of Italien gear. I have been on that path for some years, and I suspect thatearls french combo of amp and speakers are not too dissimilarfrom this. I always think thatone knows when the system is musical. It's addictive, hence baggy eyes, sleepless nights etc..
Vic,

Listening to the JMlabs at Tony's place really threw this open to me. Ok it's fair to say £22k worth of speakers are expensive and should sound good, but the fact that these speakers got out of the way and just let the music do what it's meant to do is priceless in my opinion. It'sone of the things the italian gear has shown me this year, and also what I've heard from the French gear I've been lucky enough to hear as well.

I think too much gear nowadays look for that 'extended' treble or 'deep' bass and forget what's actually on the disc being played. Sadly these appear to be areas that reviewers seem to concentrate on. I would argue that some of the uk manufacturers play to this to get good reviews forgetting what music should do. I'm not surprised some uk manufacturers seem to change their kit range every 6 months (and no I'm not just pointing my finger at MF there).

 

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Oddly enough the only british component in my rig is the SME TT and arm.

I think you're right. Far too much emphasis is put on artifical HF and LF extension. Musicality is the key and these days it's quite hard to come by.

Vic
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