What's on your Hi-fi f***it list?

[rabski]

.. being able to hear faults in reproduction and being able to identify what's causing them..

The first bit is relatively easy, the second is far harder.

 

[hiesteem]

This thread is already becoming a monster. But good fun too.
Has to be what I perceive to be over priced vinyl, especially 2nd hand and from the 80's, knowing there were literally millions of copies, printed on skinny cheap vinyl which originally cost a fiver..
Saw two of the said, perpetrators, in a thrift store last week.
Love over gold, labeled, (never played) (of about 100 million copies made) £40. Never left my turntable when I was 19.
Peter Gabriels, So, £17.............. Bought this in Crete for £2 on holiday back in the day........

 

[rabski]

Peter Gabriels, So, £17.............. Bought this in Crete for £2 on holiday back in the day........

Depends on the pressing as well. The original one has such bad sibilance that it sounds like the snake house at London Zoo.

 

[Johngriffith1512]

Poorly written user manuals.

 

[MVJ]

This thread is already becoming a monster. But good fun too.
Has to be what I perceive to be over priced vinyl, especially 2nd hand and from the 80's, knowing there were literally millions of copies, printed on skinny cheap vinyl which originally cost a fiver..
Saw two of the said, perpetrators, in a thrift store last week.
Love over gold, labeled, (never played) (of about 100 million copies made) £40. Never left my turntable when I was 19.
Peter Gabriels, So, £17.............. Bought this in Crete for £2 on holiday back in the day........

I believe the uber thin lps of that time were caused by the oil crisis I could be wrong.

 

[hiesteem]

Depends on the pressing as well. The original one has such bad sibilance that it sounds like the snake house at London Zoo.

Yes, I remember, not liking the recording quality. Seemed a lot of pressings in the 80's were fairly poor, if memory serves. It seemed to be a period of plentiful copies of vinyl, especially if mainstream popularity

 

[hiesteem]

I believe the uber thin lps of that time was caused by the oil crisis I could be wrong.

I think that period was the seventies. Perhaps more about the culture of the period. Corporate mass production, especially the mainstream stuff.

 

[StingRay]

I believe the uber thin lps of that time were caused by the oil crisis I could be wrong.

Yes I think vinyl quality went down from around 1976, got fed up taking records back. I stopped buying them.

 

[MVJ]

I think that period was the seventies. Perhaps more about the culture of the period. Corporate mass production, especially the mainstream stuff.

Ok! Clever dick

 

[audio_PHIL_e]

Poorly written user manuals.

"To set the xxxx mode, press the mode button until xxxx shows in the display" ... all very well about how to operate the button but b*gg*r-all use about why you would want to select xxxx mode or what it is for. Typical of software manuals

 

[hiesteem]

Poorly written user manuals.

Seems to be a right of passage for quality audio equipment manufacturers, for as far back as I can remember .

 

[audio_PHIL_e]

I think that period was the seventies. Perhaps more about the culture of the period. Corporate mass production, especially the mainstream stuff.

It was to make you think you got a better product if you went digital. (and hence discourage you from buying vinyl)

 

[hiesteem]

It was to make you think you got a better product if you went digital. (and hence discourage you from buying vinyl)

It worked!!

 

[Lawrence001]

It was to make you think you got a better product if you went digital. (and hence discourage you from buying vinyl)

Which mainstream digital product available in the 70s would that have been?

 

[A.S.]

What's on your Hi-fi f***it list?​

1. Hifi magazine reviewers.
2. Hifi magazines.
3. Subjectivist golden eared audiophiles.
4. Dealers posing as ‘experts’.
5. Unobtainium cable manufacturers.
6. Trust my ears brigade (with no expertise in acoustic engineering, engineering and studio/concert hall analytics).
7. Dark Side of the Moon brigade.
8. Old fashioned wooly “musical” sounding BBC-esque brigade.
9. Audiophile phrases - “PRAT, veil lifting, musical, just sounded right, even my wife heard from the other room, night and day different, warm, toe-tapping”.
10. Vinyl is best, CDs are Satan brigade.
11. Willy waving aluminium billet hifi.
12. Chumps that bang on and on and on about that old FUD - Jitter or Noise.
13. Buy an expensive power supply manufacturers.
14. Easy listening jazz-centric middle aged dudes.
15. Artisanal single handed self professed guru manufacturers.

Ok. Time to lie down in the corner and take a Valium.

 

[DomT]

What's on your Hi-fi f***it list?​

1. Hifi magazine reviewers.
2. Hifi magazines.
3. Subjectivist golden eared audiophiles.
4. Dealers posing as ‘experts’.
5. Unobtainium cable manufacturers.
6. Trust my ears brigade (with no expertise in acoustic engineering, engineering and studio/concert hall analytics).
7. Dark Side of the Moon brigade.
8. Old fashioned wooly “musical” sounding BBC-esque brigade.
9. Audiophile phrases - “PRAT, veil lifting, musical, just sounded right, even my wife heard from the other room, day and night, warm, toe-tapping”.
10. Vinyl is best, CDs are Satan brigade.
11. Willy waving aluminium billet hifi.
12. Chumps that bang on and on and on about that old FUD - Jitter or Noise.
13. Buy an expensive power supply manufacturers.
14. Easy listening jazz-centric middle aged dudes.
15. Artisanal single handed self professed guru manufacturers.

Ok. Time to lie down in the corner and take a Valium.

You think that you are Yoda? With that list of yours?

 

[Rayymondo]

what aspects of this hobby are (for you) not worth spending your time/effort/money/emotional energy on?

Vinyl . Not used it this century, can't see I'll go back to it any time soon.

 

[Rockchild]

You think that you are Yoda? With that list of yours?

he must know everything about this industry Dom with that list

 

[DomT]

What's on your Hi-fi f***it list?​

1. Hifi magazine reviewers.
2. Hifi magazines.
3. Subjectivist golden eared audiophiles.
4. Dealers posing as ‘experts’.
5. Unobtainium cable manufacturers.
6. Trust my ears brigade (with no expertise in acoustic engineering, engineering and studio/concert hall analytics).
7. Dark Side of the Moon brigade.
8. Old fashioned wooly “musical” sounding BBC-esque brigade.
9. Audiophile phrases - “PRAT, veil lifting, musical, just sounded right, even my wife heard from the other room, night and day different, warm, toe-tapping”.
10. Vinyl is best, CDs are Satan brigade.
11. Willy waving aluminium billet hifi.
12. Chumps that bang on and on and on about that old FUD - Jitter or Noise.
13. Buy an expensive power supply manufacturers.
14. Easy listening jazz-centric middle aged dudes.
15. Artisanal single handed self professed guru manufacturers.

Ok. Time to lie down in the corner and take a Valium.

Out of interest who are the HiFi industry experts in your opinion?

 

[bencat]

Me , Me,Me .