Breaking into the high end with speakers….?

[yoda900]

Mancave still looking good Mike

Thanks Keith. Just needs two huge subs capable of doing it justice
You have spoiled it forever but I still love you both

 

[TheFlash]

Photo of obsolete speakers with 4 record racks for scale.

Obsolete? Have they gone?

Off-topic I know!

 

[nak]

Beautiful room.

How about some Living Voice R25a's in white? When I bought my walnut pair I know Kevin had some white ones in.

 

[dhansak]

The glass isn’t half empty. It’s totally empty here at dhansak Towers.

 

[marko]

Forgive my ignorance; what are the boxes (on stands) either side of The LV’s?

 

[nak]

Forgive my ignorance; what are the boxes (on stands) either side of The LV’s?

I'll be honest, I have no idea. It's not my room. I just found a picture to show the white version
It's from this review https://gy8.eu/review/bonkers/

 

[marko]

Ah, ok. Hope you are enjoying your LV’s nak. I heard a pair (think they were R25’s) at Definitive last year. They sounded fabulous on the end of some expensive kit.

 

[karlsushi]

Forgive my ignorance; what are the boxes (on stands) either side of The LV’s?

I know some of the LVs have the crossovers in external boxes, so assume that's what they are, but I've certainly never seen anyone put them on their own dedicated speaker stands before!

Edit: looking again, the speakers seem to be connected direct from the amps, so I'm not sure they are the crossovers after all. I'm as befuddled as you.

 

[DUVET]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but have have you thought of stand mounts and a sub ?

 

[dhansak]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but have have you thought of stand mounts and a sub ?

A great deal, yes. I’ve listened to the top end REL sub and it still gives me a car stereo vibe that I can’t quite shake off.

 

[MF 1000]

A great deal, yes. I’ve listened to the top end REL sub and it still gives me a car stereo vibe that I can’t quite shake off.

That’s a poorly integrated/setup sub then if it’s the sound of a bass bin in an XR3i

 

[antonio66]

That's what I would have said until I purchased a REL sub, but I only have the settings on low (my REL's don't have any frequency markings) and I think it adds in a very positive way in a much smaller room than yours. Although it is very difficult to judge the size of your room looking at your photos I'd go with floorstanders, the Q Acoustic 500's look a good option, although my previous post with the Duevel's would still be worth a listen.

 

[m7rso]

I don't have stand-alone subs (and don't want them), but I appreciate the advantage you mention to moderate bass at times that may annoy neighbours. My speakers have twin 12" drivers each side, so ample bass when I want it. However I can attenuate the bass with my amplifier by saying I'm using a sub. This cuts the bass from the Main output by applying a cut-off frequency from anywhere 40 and 200 Hz. Instant restoration of harmonious neighbour relations!

I don't have stand-alone subs (and don't want them), but I appreciate the advantage you mention to moderate bass at times that may annoy neighbours. My speakers have twin 12" drivers each side, so ample bass when I want it. However I can attenuate the bass with my amplifier by saying I'm using a sub. This cuts the bass from the Main output by applying a cut-off frequency from anywhere 40 and 200 Hz. Instant restoration of harmonious neighbour relations!

Av perchance?

 

[nak]

Ah, ok. Hope you are enjoying your LV’s nak. I heard a pair (think they were R25’s) at Definitive last year. They sounded fabulous on the end of some expensive kit.

Love them.
Pretty sure they will never be changed unless I win the lottery.

I know some of the LVs have the crossovers in external boxes, so assume that's what they are, but I've certainly never seen anyone put them on their own dedicated speaker stands before!

Edit: looking again, the speakers seem to be connected direct from the amps, so I'm not sure they are the crossovers after all. I'm as befuddled as you.

They're definitely not external crossovers for the LV's. The R25a's have an internal crossover.

 

[TIU]

They're definitely not external crossovers for the LV's. The R25a's have an internal crossover.

It's a mythtery alright.

 

[DomT]

It's a mythtery alright.

You forgot the video link.

 

[dhansak]

You forgot the video link.

Thread. Killed.

 

[hearhere]

Av perchance?

Absoutely not. No interest in AV, but my 2-channel amp has a no Sub, a single Sub or a 2 Sub choice within Settings. If subs are chosen, the XO can be selected and only those low frequencies go to the sub(s). The Main speaker outlets are attenuated at the same frequency so bass is reduced. As I have no subs, selecting Sub just cuts the bass from Main output, allowing higher late night volumes without over-upsetting neighbours! NAD Master Series M33.

The earlier M32 and current M12 preamp offer much the same, except with more flexibility - the XO can be set differently between the Sub output and the Main output - for what that's worth!

 

[dhansak]

Absoutely not. No interest in AV, but my 2-channel amp has a no Sub, a single Sub or a 2 Sub choice within Settings. If subs are chosen, the XO can be selected and only those low frequencies go to the sub(s). The Main speaker outlets are attenuated at the same frequency so bass is reduced. As I have no subs, selecting Sub just cuts the bass from Main output, allowing higher late night volumes without over-upsetting neighbours! NAD Master Series M33.

The earlier M32 and current M12 preamp offer much the same, except with more flexibility - the XO can be set differently between the Sub output and the Main output - for what that's worth!

Essentially you are introducing a high pass filter to your system. That's quite a nice feature to lean on.

 

[rabski]

Living Voice would work well in that space. They need to be a fair way apart and with plenty of space to the sides. I love them, others don't (though I suspect the haters may never have heard them in an ideal space). Worth and audition.

The standmount plus sub is a good combination, but we've already noted the top-floor flat and heighbours, so it may not be ideal.

As for integration, forget it. It needs care, but there is no way a sub will sound like a sub if it's set up properly. I run one here and most listeners have no idea. They are simply surprised how deep the Living Voice seem to go...