Chord MScaler bench test at ASR, what went wrong?

[andrew s]

Exact message ? You mean like the artist intended ?

Artist " I know you think you heard what I played but you don't realise that what I played wasn't what I ment."

 

[garn63]

Anyone up for a cable discussion

Shiny blue ones ?

 

[Nativebon]

Gggggggg!!. It's like the fun of hifi is taken away after reading the whole complexity of it all.. That's not taking into account the understanding of the minds behind the complex divide. I wish I was back in the 70s now, young free and stupid and just boogie to the rhythm when I heard it.

 

[andrew s]

Artist " I know you think you heard what I played but you don't realise that what was recorded wasn't what I  played."

Improved version using m-scaler

 

[Camverton]

Gggggggg!!. It's like the fun of hifi is taken away after reading the whole complexity of it all.. That's not taking into account the understanding of the minds behind the complex divide. I wish I was back in the 70s now, young free and stupid and just boogie to the rhythm when I heard it.

There’s a lot to be said for leaving the measurements to the designers and manufacturers, leaving us to choose what works for us in our rooms, with our hearing, not to mention minds, and rooms which vary enormously and to a degree that no one designer can accommodate us all with one product.

Looking at recent discussions elsewhere, one measurement it appears we do have to take into account is whether the product is suitable for our, higher than most, UK mains voltage. It’s not good placing too much faith in a manufacturer when it puts DACs on our market which start smoking when used in this country. One argument for paying a premium for British made products I suppose.

 

[Miller-8]

Guys Amir has ripped the DAVE a new one here:

 

[Miller-8]

There’s a lot to be said for leaving the measurements to the designers and manufacturers, leaving us to choose what works for us in our rooms, with our hearing, not to mention minds, and rooms which vary enormously and to a degree that no one designer can accommodate us all with one product.

Looking at recent discussions elsewhere, one measurement it appears we do have to take into account is whether the product is suitable for our, higher than most, UK mains voltage. It’s not good placing too much faith in a manufacturer when it puts DACs on our market which start smoking when used in this country. One argument for paying a premium for British made products I suppose.

Nonsense. Nowadays our voltage is 230V same as EU.

 

[Tintinabulum]

Nonsense. Nowadays our voltage is 230V same as EU.

Are you being ironic? Have you tested yours?

 

[Miller-8]

Are you being ironic? Have you tested yours?

No I haven't but I believe we dropped 10V. It varies anyway between 220 and 240.

 

[Juancho]

No I haven't but I believe we dropped 10V. It varies anyway between 220 and 240.

I suggest you do some testing or even Googling before stating 'nonsense". In the UK, the declared voltage and tolerance for an electricity supply is 230 volts -6%, +10%. Mine regularly hits 253 and averages 249

 

[Camverton]

Nonsense. Nowadays our voltage is 230V same as EU.

Thank you so much for declaring my post nonsense, I am happy to be corrected by someone more expert in this field but from a suppliers website, “In the UK, the declared voltage and tolerance for an electricity supply is 230 volts -6%, +10%. This gives an allowed voltage range of 216.2 volts to 253.0 volts.” Voltage here, in the wilds of Herefordshire, is currently 242.8v. I don’t spend my time measuring the mains voltage and the plug in meter isn’t necessarily calibrated to the nth degree but when I have looked, usually to check consumption of something, the voltage has never been below 240v.

Equipment sold in the UK should take into account actual as well as nominal values.

 

[Camverton]

No I haven't but I believe we dropped 10V. It varies anyway between 220 and 240.

Oh dear, someone must have forgotten to tell Western Power .

 

[tuga]

Nonsense. Nowadays our voltage is 230V same as EU.

That was before Bregshit...

 

[Miller-8]

I suggest you do some testing or even Googling before stating 'nonsense". In the UK, the declared voltage and tolerance for an electricity supply is 230 volts -6%, +10%. Mine regularly hits 253 and averages 249

Fair enough. Does it not do that in the rest of europe?

 

[Juancho]

The European standard is 230V -10% +6% i.e. 207.0 V-243.8 V. So much for harmonisation (when we were in the EU......)

 

[savvypaul]

Ours was always 240, afaik. But that is near enough to 230 to meet the regs, on paper. We routinely check voltage from customers sockets for one of the items we make. Year to date, 50ish results vary from 237 to 256.

 

[Miller-8]

Yeah from what I remember ours was 240V rest of Europe was 220V so they agreed to harmonise at 230V by using a minimum and maximum range around 230V. Everything produced nowadays is made top operate in that range.

 

[Nativebon]

Guys Amir has ripped the DAVE a new one here:

I don't trust this guy. I have my reasons. Cause I asked a very specific question under the comment section of this video, pertaining to why not doing a listening test with the analogue output of the Chord Dave DAC, (XLR/RCA)and he referred me to the headphone listening test he did.

 

[Fourlegs]

Fair enough. Does it not do that in the rest of europe?

No, it was just a fudge to pretend that we had the same voltage. My uk voltage is most days around 250V. Always has been, always will be.

 

[Miller-8]

No, it was just a fudge to pretend that we had the same voltage. My uk voltage is most days around 250V. Always has been, always will be.

Well it's supposed to be 240V