HDMI Dvd player for an Infocus projector

[Craig]

Hello all.

Sorry for yet another dvd thread, but I am rather lost on the different 720 this, 1080i that issues.

So, got a new PJ yesterday (Infocus IN72)

The current dvd player is a Pioneer 575a, which I've been happy with.

However, the PJ will sit on a coffee table when in use, and an HDMI cable would be so much more practical than a chunky component cable. I am working on the assumption that I should leave any upscaling to the chip in the IN72, so I just (I assume) need a DVD player which can send a decent signal through HDMI

Budget................? Trying to keep it low, so the Samsung 860 caught my eye............but can of course go higher

In case the spec of the PJ matters, here you go, geeks

COMPATIBILITY

Video: Component and RGB HDTV (720p, 1035i, 1080i, 1080p-24Hz), 24p. DVI/HDMI with HDCP for digital video and encrypted digital video. Component EDTV (480p, 576p progressive scan), Component, Composite and S-Video standard video (480i, 576i, 576i RGB SCART with adapter optional, NTSC, NTSC M 4.43, PAL: B, G, H, I, M, N; SECAM: M).

Computer: Digital and analog PC, Macintosh®, up to 1024x768 resolution through intelligent resizing (Separately available M1-A cable for analog sources or M1-D cable for digital sources required.)

Communication: USB (with separately available M1-A or M1-D cable)

INPUTS & OUTPUTS

1 - Component (RCA): HDTV, EDTV (progressive), and Standard TV component video (interlaced)

1 – S-Video: Standard TV Video

1 – Composite (RCA): Standard TV Video

1 – DVI: HDTV RGB, HDTV Component, Digital Visual Interface (DVI) with HDCP decryption, computer, and USB, HDMI via available adapter

1 - HDMI: SDTV, EDTV, HDTV Component (4:4:4 or 4:2:2) and RGB digital video, Interface (HDMI) with HDCP decryption

1 – 3.5mm Mini-Jack: 12v screen drop trigger

SCART RGBS: RGBS through component and composite video connectors with separately available adapter

 

[Nick]

Sony have a new player out the DV76 and at the money nothing comes close.

 

[gsrai]

Hiya fella'

I might be wrong but I dont think the projector does the upscaling - its the source (DVD player) that outputs the signal in whateve resolution it can.

As long as the PJ can cope with the resolution you throw at it you should be fine!

I have a couple of Harman Kardon DVD players and the DV47 is ace but if you want to stay on the cheap just go with the Denon 1930 (around £200 at Richer Sounds).

At the risk of being an imp - you could buy an Arcam DV79 for c.£500 or an FMJ DV29 and then throw away your CD player as they are meant to be sweet DVD players

Actually, have a chat with Nick - he's got some good deals at the mo

 

[Craig]

Nick wrote:

Sony have a new player out the DV76 and at the money nothing comes close.

Thanks Nic, that looks to be about the right price!!

I see from your site you are an infocus dealer.........am I not correct in thinking the IN72 has the ability to upscale? Pixelworks chip, or something like that?

Gobind, maybe I've got it wrong :-/ Anyway, whilst the denon is surely a goodie, I'm a bit skint right now so the sony seems like a better price (how many dvd players do you need, anyway?)

 

[Guest]

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...

i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

 

[gsrai]

rudolph hucker wrote:

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

Surely not because HD was coming out

I'm assuming you didn't buy a DVD cos' you didn't want the films - 3 years is a long time to wait for the technology...

 

[Craig]

rudolph hucker wrote:

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

2 words...............

source material

 

[Guest]

Craig wrote:

rudolph hucker wrote:

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

2 words...............

source material

they will play in a hidef machine... buy one and then be patient it'll come you'll be throwing your dvd's away in 5 years time the same as vhs..

 

[Guest]

gsrai wrote:

rudolph hucker wrote:

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

Surely not because HD was coming out

I'm assuming you didn't buy a DVD cos' you didn't want the films - 3 years is a long time to wait for the technology...

there's many films i want to buy but buying it on sd dvd is muppetry... ole rudi's patient and he'll buy them in time... just no dvd's thanks it for the yesterday

 

[gsrai]

rudolph hucker wrote:

Craig wrote:

rudolph hucker wrote:

why buy a dvd player(it's yesterdays technology)when hd dvd is out now...i haven't bought a single dvd in 3 years.. i knew it was coming... just gonna wait a year to see which format to go for....

may just get a ps3 to start with..

2 words...............

source material

they will play in a hidef machine... buy one and then be patient it'll come you'll be throwing your dvd's away in 5 years time the same as vhs..

I sense a resurgence of the cable wars :force:- I doubt we'' throw DVD's away as you cal always upscale them and people still LP's - how's yours Rudi

 

[Nick]

Hi Infocus will scale the picture as any diaplay device would but you would probaly best to turn on the scaling in the dvd player if you opt for the Sony. In most cases it makes an improvement but at this level there a lot of machines that have basic scalers and you would be better off with the one in the projector.

 

[gsrai]

Nick wrote:

Hi Infocus will scale the picture as any diaplay device would but you would probaly best to turn on the scaling in the dvd player if you opt for the Sony. In most cases it makes an improvement but at this level there a lot of machines that have basic scalers and you would be better off with the one in the projector.

Thanks Nick

, I stand corrected (shows how much I know

), sorry for misleading Craig!

 

[Craig]

Thanks Nick, and Gobind.

 

[Crustyloafer]

Craig wrote:

I see from your site you are an infocus dealer.........am I not correct in thinking the IN72 has the ability to upscale? Pixelworks chip, or something like that?

Hi Craig, I am in InFocus Dealer. The IN72 does have a scaler, but it will not upscale anything. The resolution of the IN72 is 854x480 which is lower than the resolution of a UK PAL DVD disc (1025x576). So in actual fact the IN72 will downscale the incoming PAL standard defintion picture of 1024x576 to its native resolution of 854x480. The plain and simple answer is the IN72 does not even have the resolution to display all of the information from a non-scaled standard defintion PAL DVD picture, therefore there would be absolutely no benefit in purchasing a player with any upscaling abilities.

 

[Craig]

Crustyloafer wrote:

Craig wrote:

I see from your site you are an infocus dealer.........am I not correct in thinking the IN72 has the ability to upscale? Pixelworks chip, or something like that?

Hi Craig, I am in InFocus Dealer. The IN72 does have a scaler, but it will not upscale anything. The resolution of the IN72 is 854x480 which is lower than the resolution of a UK PAL DVD disc (1025x576). So in actual fact the IN72 will downscale the incoming PAL standard defintion picture of 1024x576 to its native resolution of 854x480. The plain and simple answer is the IN72 does not even have the resolution to display all of the information from a non-scaled standard defintion PAL DVD picture, therefore there would be absolutely no benefit in purchasing a player with any upscaling abilities.

There's a list on my desk which, around halfway down, reads "send PM to cursty"

You beat me to it.

Thanks for the heads up on the res. info, it's one of the things that seems to go in one ear and clean out the other with me. Sorry

So, the long and short of it is - I assume - thatI need the best DVD player with an HDMI input I can get for my not a lot of money, with upscaling not an issue

 

[Crustyloafer]

Craig wrote:

So, the long and short of it is - I assume - thatI need the best DVD player with an HDMI input I can get for my not a lot of money, with upscaling not an issue

Precisely. Except you'll probably want a player with a HDMI output and not an input.

 

[Craig]

Hangs

Head

In

Shame

Thanks Crusty