Linn - Year End finance report - they're doing ok

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HIGH-end music system specialist Linn achieved a 21% hike in pre-tax profits to £2.19 million in its last financial year to June 30, as it enjoyed strong demand for its cutting-edge digital streaming (DS) players in tough economic conditions.

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POSITIVE: Gilad Tiefenbrun, managing director of Linn, saw pre-tax profits rise to £2.19m. Picture: Mark Mainz

Gilad Tiefenbrun, managing director of East Renfrewshire-based Linn, revealed that Hollywood actor Michael Fassbender had purchased one of the company's DS music systems recently.

Linn, which is based at Waterfoot, enjoyed a 5% rise in turnover to £17.3m in the year to June. It employed 173 people at its June 30 year-end, Mr Tiefenbrun said, with the company having recruited "cautiously" in the last two or three years.

Linn said yesterday that its decision to exit the compact-disc player market nearly three years ago had "raised eyebrows in the industry". It added that its focus on high-resolution music downloads played back on Linn DS network music players had been "vindicated by these financial results".

Mr Tiefenbrun noted the value of Linn's sales of DS music players was now close to past peak annual sales of CD players.

He said: "Where we are with the streaming is up to where we were at the very peak of CD, and it is early days in streaming. We see tremendous potential with streaming. It is an area where there is actually growth. People moving from CD to streaming is still at the early stages."

He emphasised Linn's heavy investment in continuing development of its DS players. He said the company had invested £2.15m in research and development in the year to June 30.

Noting that Linn had started making DS music players in 2007, he added: "Because it is all our own technology, we are able to add into that with R&D."

He cited a new range launched in the last year which could play "sound from just about everything you can think of in the living room", including television, movies, and games as well as music, through HDMI (high-definition multimedia interface) connections.

Mr Tiefenbrun cited these DS players' compatibility with personal computers, iPods, iPads, and Android devices.

He said the typical price of a Linn system was between £5000 and £6000, with the starting price of a pure music-playing system about £1500.

Linn continues to make vinyl record players. Mr Tiefenbrun said this part of the firm's operations was "pretty stable" at 10% to 15% of the overall business.

Asked if he was pleased with Linn's performance given the economic backdrop, Mr Tiefenbrun replied: "I am absolutely delighted with these results.

"I think we are doing way better than anyone would have predicted. We are not immune to the conditions out there. It is driven by innovation.

"We have to stay at the absolute forefront. We have to be out there competing."

He added: "I think, overall, there isn't a huge amount of growth in the markets. We have to win market share. We just have to get used to having to fight like everyone else.

" You can't rely on there being some kind of miraculous upturn in the economy."

Mr Tiefenbrun highlighted the troubles in the eurozone, which he described as a "very significant market" for Linn.

He added: "We are just assuming things will stay the same. These are the market conditions, and we need to compete in the market we are in."

Linn also records music. Linn Records is home to artists including Carol Kidd, Claire Martin, and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. Mr Tiefenbrun said Linn Records accounted for 5% to 6% of group turnover.

Gilad's father, Ivor, owns more than 60% of Linn. Ivor's brother, Marcus, has a minority stake. Ivor and Marcus's sister, Bessie, owns about 1.5% of the firm.

 
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Always good to see a UK based company making some money and employing people. Are they making all their tone-arms in house now or are they still outsourcing that to Japan ( I am not counting the project 9-cc )? I assume they don't make their own cartridges, it would be nice if they ploughed some of the profits into setting up the engineering for that in house as well.

 

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If I remember rightly the Akito and Ekos are now made in Scotland but the cartridges are still made in the Far East. I know it's seen as good sport to Linn bash and I've never been the greatest admirer of their stuff but a British success story and I like their streamers.

 

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If I remember rightly the Akito and Ekos are now made in Scotland but the cartridges are still made in the Far East. I know it's seen as good sport to Linn bash and I've never been the greatest admirer of their stuff but a British success story and I like their streamers.
Lyra make the Akiva, I think Goldring make the Klyde.

 
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I had a 5/6 hour guided tour of the Linn factory last year, tonearms/LP12's/spray and paint room/speakers/streamers etc...

Scottish gaelic singer Fiona Mackenzie & band played live at lunchtime, stunning! tea/coffee/cakes supplied. Got a free signed vinyl copy of Fiona's latest album/recording. Linn goodies in the shape of memory USB stick, tee shirt, hi-fi brochures etc....

A fantastic day, felt like a VIP.

 

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I did maths on it - they seem to be saying they sell a turntable a day. I would have expected more than that.

 

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I dont know how they are making money with the gear they are churning out now days. Beats me. Don't get me wrong a like to see people do well and it is keeing folk in work. Just cant see how or why people buy Linn.

 

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I think I may have provided a fair chunk of that turnover in the past 18 months. Although I'm not sure they include secondhand kit in their figures ;-)

@lee1975 - will you be at Scalford? Give it a listen and see what you think.

 

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Heard lots of Linn past and present from basic LP 12 to CD 12. Just does not do it for me and at a massive cost for something that is not built that well to be frank. But hey we are all diffrent and as long as you enjoy your set up that is all that counts, Not what I think of it.

 

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Heard lots of Linn past and present from basic LP 12 to CD 12. Just does not do it for me and at a massive cost for something that is not built that well to be frank. But hey we are all diffrent and as long as you enjoy your set up that is all that counts, Not what I think of it.
Very true - if we all liked the same thing, we'd have nothing to post about!

And for what its worth (i.e. not much really), I never heard a Linn CD player that I liked. Also worth noting that I didn't go out to have a full Linn system, but after a fair bit of experimenting it ended up that way. Happily.

 

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Am still please after scan etc of Linn anti-CD 'Lemon' advert.

 

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Heard lots of Linn past and present from basic LP 12 to CD 12. Just does not do it for me and at a massive cost for something that is not built that well to be frank. But hey we are all diffrent and as long as you enjoy your set up that is all that counts, Not what I think of it.
Linn equipment is definitely voiced in a love or hate it way but I would never describe it as badly built. It lasts well but if the Charles Rennie Mackintosh inspired casework doesn't appeal to you I can see why you might not like it.

 

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I dont know how they are making money with the gear they are churning out now days. Beats me. Don't get me wrong a like to see people do well and it is keeing folk in work. Just cant see how or why people buy Linn.
I have a Renew DS and think it's brilliant, sounds fantastic. Not as good as my turntable, of course, but no digital I've ever heard has been.

 

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I like old decent value/sonically great Linn hardware, and admit probably that their new digital audio noises on sale as downloads probably are sonically good if you like the artistes.Am still please after scan etc of Linn anti-CD 'Lemon' advert.
I haven't found the lemon one yet, but I've scanned in most of the other "cheeky" ads, and older brochures. Its work in progress so more will be added over time:

http://audiophilemusings.blogspot.co.uk/p/linn-brochures.html

 

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Bloody outrageous that they are making a profit.

Rip off Britain again!

What are their real manufacturing costs?

Surely they could get rid of all those jobs in Scotland?

They only spend their money on lard, salt, whisky and cigarettes anyway.

It would be cheaper to get the stuff made by children working 18 hours a day for a pittance somewhere foreign.

Why don't we get everything for cost price? :grrr:

 
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I've enjoyed Linn kit having had quite a bit of it over the years - had an LP12 for over 20 years from the early 80s (bought with first credit card on starting work after uni), assorted arms and cartridges, Index speakers & Intek integrated at one stage, a well-off mate had the CD12 and that really impressed in the days when I had a humble Denon something or other ....

For sheer longevity and commitment to UK manufacturing, they deserve to do well, I'm not much of a fan of the current stuff (the old fruitbox has had all the fun engineered out of it IMO) but if you like that sort of thing then fair play. The streaming thing in particular holds zero interest but it's clear they see this as their trump card.

 

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