My pleasure.
Well, my plan was not to move the TV. The left speaker to the left of the TV (if room enough) and the right speaker slightly closer towards the TV. Might work.
Well, my plan was not to move the TV. The left speaker to the left of the TV (if room enough) and the right speaker slightly closer towards the TV. Might work.
There was probably something under a layer of dust in the back of my mind. From Linn docs: "The AV 5140 is a high quality floorstanding speaker, which can be used in a wide variety of AV system positions: Built-in magnetic screening allows the AV 5140 to be positioned as close as 50mm to a television set."
So, the purpose of the distance rule of your speakers was most likely to prevent that the speakers' strong magnets deflect the ray in a CRT, which would have compromised the image. Obviously, magnetic shielding is a good countermeasure. Now I recall, that cheap little computer speakers also sported magnetic shielding, as they are usually positioned close to the monitor.
Hope you find a good place for your speakers, without disturbing the Lady of the castle. If she loves music, and yourself, there must be some synergetic potential
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My plan is to move the TV and speakers to the left, and through 90 degrees, so they are facing the piano, firing left-to-right as it were as per the photo. It's a big, blank wall with nothing but power sockets on it so I'll be doing the aesthetics a favour. Then all that needs to happen is either switch the positions of the sofa and armchair, or persuade the dog that the armchair isn't his. Plus the added benefit of freeing up the whole area of the window.
Then, with TV and speakers positioned centrally to the listening position I can start tweaking with distance from back wall, etc..
That seems like the best solution to me as well.
Please post photos, as you go through this process, so we can follow along.
I do believe your speakers will benefit from being pulled away from the wall a bit more, at least 20-30 cm
Other than the limited back well that the edges of the toed in speakers just align with, the best way to improve the sound is with acoustic panels, diffusers and bass traps. None of which will ever pass the WAF
Thanks @Paulssurround. I've just checked, I thought they were equal set by eye; one was 6cm, one was 8cm. I've shifted them both to 20cm, which TBH is about as far as the current room layout will support. Keen to give that a listen. I think once I've switched things around I'll have a bit more latitude to experiment between 20-30cm. Despite the claim in the manual "due to the unusually high bass output, your Alya's may function best if placed away from corners" I've always found them a little bass-light TBH, although to be fair I don't find that a bad thing.That seems like the best solution to me as well.
Please post photos, as you go through this process, so we can follow along.
I do believe your speakers will benefit from being pulled away from the wall a bit more, at least 20-30 cm
Having been to your home, I know how good your system sounds.Other than the limited back well that the edges of the toed in speakers just align with, the best way to improve the sound is with acoustic panels, diffusers and bass traps. None of which will ever pass the WAF
‘However, you would probably benefit with a wider wall behind the speakers. Glad we have Space Optimisation.
Only missing an LP12 ;-)Other than the limited back well that the edges of the toed in speakers just align with, the best way to improve the sound is with acoustic panels, diffusers and bass traps. None of which will ever pass the WAF
Kind of, but not really. I think the second sofa is probably a big help and there's a material covered tall lamp to one side of the chimney breast which is a great absorber of reflected sound. There is a curtain between the speakers and another on the wall behind the listening position which also help - the sound definitely deteriorates when they're open to the window panes. But no purpose designed treatment. That's part of the room's multi-purpose compromise, plus I really don't like the look of most of them. Would I use them if I had a dedicated room? Possibly, but its not a given.I don’t recall if you have any bass traps or room acoustic treatment?
Very nice!Other than the limited back well that the edges of the toed in speakers just align with, the best way to improve the sound is with acoustic panels, diffusers and bass traps. None of which will ever pass the WAF
To pass the WAF I used large photographs printed on canvas in our room. Not quite as good as absorbers, though - which brings me to a business idea: The favourite photograph printed on an absorber should be the audiophile's ultima ratio.
A photo of a street musician who's just tuning his guitar (in Barcelona) decorates our dining corner, in lieu of the forbidden bookshelf. It's 1,00 × 0,75 m canvas on a wooden frame. Between the speakers above electronics, and turntable is another photo 1,20 × 0,90 m, again canvas on wooden frame. It features three street musicians playing their guitars on the Praca do Commercio in Lisbon. These images both have a high WAF, and I get requests to find another one to be placed over the sofa. At present there are two drawings showing typical houses on the island of Bornholm. We bought them there during our first mutual holiday trip, directly from the artist. As they are under glass, replacing them by canvas might be acoustically beneficial. But then, they have some sentimental value.
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As I said elsewhere recently: There a reason why I no longer have a nicely updated LP12: SNAP....CRACKLE...POP, and that annoying sound of the stylus running along the vinyl that is heard while listening with headphones
There is a huge wall behind where we sit. Again, while I have a large collection of a friend’s paintings, and several of Kenny Wheeler with whom he became friends, that would all be great to improve the sound, none pass the WAF
The biggest challenge to my listening room setup is my wife. She insists the sofa be placed close to the rear wall. Ideally, I’d move it nearer to the loudspeakers for optimum stereo separation.
Thanks to @Paulssurround, @TooManyCatweazles & @HansBertil I have been converted from a sceptic to a believer! Acting on their advice I moved the speakers apart, closer to the TV, which opened up the soundstage a little. I also move them forward - 20cm from the back wall - and tried one of my Cat A reference albums. The bass was enhanced to a level I'd not experienced with these speakers, the top end treble was fine, but I'd lost that mid-range melody that i love. A quick experiment shuffling the speakers out a couple for centimetres more (now 22cm from back wall) was a revelation; everything just snapped back into place! Thanks to these guys I'm now looking forward to further tweaking and moving the room around!That seems like the best solution to me as well.
Please post photos, as you go through this process, so we can follow along.
I do believe your speakers will benefit from being pulled away from the wall a bit more, at least 20-30 cm
Time to call upon your inner interior designer.
I’m sure she would love to have some nice big plants behind the sofa to give the room a more natural look and aesthetic. She gets to dress up the room and you get your sofa moved forward.
Alternatively, if you do get your surround speakers, they need to go behind the couch.
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GIK Acoustics have beaten you to it I'm afraid:which brings me to a business idea: The favourite photograph printed on an absorber should be the audiophile's ultima ratio.
https://gikacoustics.co.uk/product-category/acoustic-art-panels/
With URL forwarding to a German domain (based on my IP, or language preference in the browser?), and showing a phone number in Frankfurt/M.
I'll have a look at the Frankenfurters ;-)
Thx for sharing @MartinC!
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