Why can't I play my playlists on Klimax DS?

[TMClinn]

Hello, my first post so here goes...

I have a Klimax DS with a bunch of playlists (some upto 2,500 tracks) I created on the Linn App.

They created fine and I can see the tracks in them, but when I click 'play' it firstly displays 'collecting tracks' and then displays 'n added tracks', but then nothing.

So has anyone experienced this before and found a fix/solution. Appreciate your insights.

Thanks, TMC

 

[akamatsu]

Perhaps start with a hard reset of the DSM.

 

[TMClinn]

Perhaps start with a hard reset of the DSM.

Hi thanks. By hard reset do you mean just power the DS off and on? If yes I have tried that with no change

 

[akamatsu]

Hi thanks. By hard reset do you mean just power the DS off and on? If yes I have tried that with no change

That's what I meant. I've also gone the extra step of unplugging mains power and Ethernet.

 

[akamatsu]

I sometimes get some wonky behavior streaming over the network. This fixes it most of the time.

 

[akamatsu]

One more thing. I have to reset my router from time to time. This seems to improve performance. I think it's all worth a try, just for good measure.

 

[TMClinn]

One more thing. I have to reset my router from time to time. This seems to improve performance. I think it's all worth a try, just for good measure.

I’ll try those tips, thx vm

 

[TMClinn]

One more thing. I have to reset my router from time to time. This seems to improve performance. I think it's all worth a try, just for good measure.

Tried the reset, no luck unfortunately

 

[Ray Vardy]

Hello, my first post so here goes...

I have a Klimax DS with a bunch of playlists (some upto 2,500 tracks) I created on the Linn App.

They created fine and I can see the tracks in them, but when I click 'play' it firstly displays 'collecting tracks' and then displays 'n added tracks', but then nothing.

So has anyone experienced this before and found a fix/solution. Appreciate your insights.

Thanks, TMC

What is the source of the playlists? If a streaming service do you have an active subscription?

 

[Moomintroll]

I believe there is a limit to the number of tracks in a DS Playlist. The default max is 1000. Not sure if this can be increased.

’troll

 

[timster]

When you create a Linn playlist, it is stored in your Linn account in the form of a list of urls. If at any point those urls change then the playlist will no longer work.
So it would help to know from what source you created your lists. If a streaming service such as Qobuz, then even though the tracks can show up in the app, if your subscription doesn't cover the cost of streaming them it won't load them. Alternatively, if from a local server, the urls could change after a rebuild of the library. In this case you would be better off creating m3u playlists with something like Playlist Creator.

 

[TMClinn]

I believe there is a limit to the number of tracks in a DS Playlist. The default max is 1000. Not sure if this can be increased.

’troll

Thanks vm. I’ve tried it with a playlist with just 200 tracks and it’s the same non playing result.

 

[TMClinn]

When you create a Linn playlist, it is stored in your Linn account in the form of a list of urls. If at any point those urls change then the playlist will no longer work.
So it would help to know from what source you created your lists. If a streaming service such as Qobuz, then even though the tracks can show up in the app, if your subscription doesn't cover the cost of streaming them it won't load them. Alternatively, if from a local server, the urls could change after a rebuild of the library. In this case you would be better off creating m3u playlists with something like Playlist Creator.

Thx that’s a wealth of info there. I created them in the native Linn app from music files stored on my qnap NAS, so all in the Linn environment.

I’m keen to know more about the playlist creator you mentioned…?

 

[timster]

Thx that’s a wealth of info there. I created them in the native Linn app from music files stored on my qnap NAS, so all in the Linn environment.

I’m keen to know more about the playlist creator you mentioned…?

All in the Linn environment - except the music files themselves
There are a number of playlist creators but I use Odd Gravity Playlist Creator. Should be able to Google it or try this

https://playlist-creator.en.uptodown.com/windows/download

You save them as m3u files in a folder on your NAS, which you will have to include in your server's scan. It will then have a Playlists container that you access in the Linn app as you would any other files.

 

[TMClinn]

All in the Linn environment - except the music files themselves
There are a number of playlist creators but I use Odd Gravity Playlist Creator. Should be able to Google it or try this

https://playlist-creator.en.uptodown.com/windows/download

You save them as m3u files in a folder on your NAS, which you will have to include in your server's scan. It will then have a Playlists container that you access in the Linn app as you would any other files.

Sounds good, very helpful. So those m3u files remain valid even if there have been changes with the files on the NAS?

 

[timster]

Sounds good, very helpful. So those m3u files remain valid even if there have been changes with the files on the NAS?

Yes, as long as you don't physically move the files, because the m3u files only contain file paths. The server generates urls when it scans them, so on a rescan/rebuild, they will be regenerated.

 

[Moomintroll]

I created them in the native Linn app from music files stored on my qnap NAS,

Alternatively, if from a local server, the urls could change after a rebuild of the library.

This. If you’ve rescanned your database since creating the Playlists, it’s likely that the track URLs have changed.

’troll

 

[TMClinn]

Sounds good, very helpful. So those m3u files remain valid even if there have been changes with the files on the NAS?

Ah this is windows, I’m an apple Mac user, do you recommend a Mac m3u equivalent?

 

[TMClinn]

This. If you’ve rescanned your database since creating the Playlists, it’s likely that the track URLs have changed.

’troll

I have just found that the playlists I've created in Apple Music (eg. iTunes) can be exported in m3u format. So can I place that playlist m3u file in a folder on my NAS for the Linn to locate and play? OR do I have a format issue because those files are m4a format and I need to create the m3u with the native FLAC files on the NAS?

 

[Moomintroll]

I have just found that the playlists I've created in Apple Music (eg. iTunes) can be exported in m3u format. So can I place that playlist m3u file in a folder on my NAS for the Linn to locate and play? OR do I have a format issue because those files are m4a format and I need to create the m3u with the native FLAC files on the NAS?

If I understand you correctly - the playlist you’ve created in Apple Music will play the files from iTunes and not your NAS. Your .m3u list needs to point to the physical location of the music files. As you use a MAC, you could try VLC - https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html as that should allow you to create and save a playlist as .m3u

BTW - you’re still limited to 1000 tracks on the DS.

’troll