Klipsch forte iii

[greengoblin]

Oh my!! I’d have them uncovered like that all the time. First impression on the sound please! 

 

[Leem]

Oh my!! I’d have them uncovered like that all the time. First impression on the sound please! 

Well, first impression was "what have I done, they sound appalling".

After a brief panic attack, I started moving them around, and got something much nicer.

Today I had the chance to run the dirac room correction built into my nad streamer, amd started listening properly.

When people say they sound like being at a live venue they aren't kidding, some of the vocals just take your breath away, even some of the chat between songs is like they are in the room with you.

I'm not a great one for imaging generally, but as I was putting the mic away, after doing the room correction, it actually felt like I was walking onto the stage. No word of a lie, I looked to see who was behind me! 

I won't say they're perfect, they aren't, they aren't as detailed as my PMC FB1s, and they can sometimes sound a bit "cheap" with the wrong material in thst you dont hear anything special, but when you get it right, just wow!

More thoughts to follow when I've lived with them some more, but here's another pov.

I've moved my PMCs into a different room and connected them to a leak 130, and I listened for 10 minutes before I had to go listen to the fortes again. It was like going from hifi to a concert. 

 

[Gizza]

Very nice and congratulations! From what I read, they're quite revealing of components upstream. I loved the Klipsch 'La Scala' that I heard  some years ago at a dealer. Dynamics abound.... 

 

[Leem]

Very nice and congratulations! From what I read, they're quite revealing of components upstream. I loved the Klipschorn 'A La Scala' that I heard  some years ago at a dealer. Dynamics abound.... 

Definitely revealing, I think I need a better cartridge

 

[George 47]

Go on don't hold back, wear your heart on your sleeve.....did you like them?

 

[Leem]

Go on don't hold back, wear your heart on your sleeve.....did you like them?

So far I think they're amazing. 

When you turn them up (ie when swmbo goes out) they just sing.

I was listening to strangers in the night (ufo live album earlier) and it was like being back in the 70s

 

[JimFin]

I'm running a tube integrated and have been considering replacing Zu's with the Forte.  Good to hear you're happy with them.

 

[tuga]

I'm running a tube integrated and have been considering replacing Zu's with the Forte.  Good to hear you're happy with them.

Are you able to try before buying? They're not the easiest of speakers to drive:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/klipsch-forte-iii-loudspeaker-measurements

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Edit: I see you own a Prima Luna so definitely not the best of matches.

 

[Leem]

Sadly since I got covid late last year my hearing has been badly affected in one ear, so not been listening much since.

I may sell them,  no point having that amount of gear doing nothing.

At least with headphones I can make allowances

 

[tuga]

Sadly since I got covid late last year my hearing has been badly affected in one ear, so not been listening much since.

I may sell them,  no point having that amount of gear doing nothing.

At least with headphones I can make allowances

Have you ruled our a blocked ear?

 

[JimFin]

Thanks for the input Ric.  I'll read the article.  It will be difficult for me to audition at home for any speaker purchase.

 

[rdale]

Thanks for the input Ric.  I'll read the article.  It will be difficult for me to audition at home for any speaker purchase.

I would expect your PrimaLuna amp to easily drive Forte III or IVs.

 

[tuga]

I would expect your PrimaLuna amp to easily drive Forte III or IVs.

From Stereophile's measurements it looks as though most (perhaps all) Prima Luna amplifiers have a very high output impedance.

Measurements of the Forte III impedance and phase show a difficult load in the bass and disproportionally high impedance in the treble, and thus the amplifier/speaker interaction will result in excessive treble and little low-bass.

Look here for an explanation:

Questions of Impedance Interaction

https://www.stereophile.com/reference/810/index.html

Real-Life Measurements

https://www.stereophile.com/reference/60/index.html

 

[rdale]

From Stereophile's measurements it looks as though most (perhaps all) Prima Luna amplifiers have a very high output impedance.

Measurements of the Forte III impedance and phase show a difficult load in the bass and disproportionally high impedance in the treble, and thus the amplifier/speaker interaction will result in excessive treble and little low-bass.

Look here for an explanation:

Questions of Impedance Interaction

https://www.stereophile.com/reference/810/index.html

Real-Life Measurements

https://www.stereophile.com/reference/60/index.html

You’ve no practical experience of either Klipsch speakers or PrimaLuna amps. You don’t apparently like either of them because of your interpretation of measurements you’ve found on the web.

I do actually have a pair of Klipsch speakers driven by a valve amp, and along with many other people I find it a great combination. I’m probably going to upgrade my amp to a PrimaLuna Evo 100 later in this year, and I would expect that amp to be a great combination with the larger Klipsches if I were to upgrade my speakers at some point.

 

[tuga]

You’ve no practical experience of either Klipsch speakers or PrimaLuna amps. You don’t apparently like either of them because of your interpretation of measurements you’ve found on the web.

I do actually have a pair of Klipsch speakers driven by a valve amp, and along with many other people I find it a great combination. I’m probably going to upgrade my amp to a PrimaLuna Evo 100 later in this year, and I would expect that amp to be a great combination with the larger Klipsches if I were to upgrade my speakers at some point.

I knew you would say that. :rofl:

You confuse taste with fact though. You have the R-41Ms I believe. Interestingly the load is not too dissimilar:

https://www.******************.com/forum/index.php?threads/klipsch-r-41m-bookshelf-speaker-review.11566/

 

[rdale]

I knew you would say that. :rofl:

You confuse taste with fact though. You have the R-41Ms I believe. Interestingly the load is not too dissimilar:

https://www.******************.com/forum/index.php?threads/klipsch-r-41m-bookshelf-speaker-review.11566/

You are not asserting ‘facts’, and I am not confused. I hope that anyone interested in how well PrimaLuna amps go with Klipsch speakers searches for reports based on practical experience. The reports I’ve found have been uniformly positive.

 

[tuga]

You are not asserting ‘facts’, and I am not confused. I hope that anyone interested in how well PrimaLuna amps go with Klipsch speakers searches for reports based on practical experience. The reports I’ve found have been uniformly positive.

The problem with your reason is that your “go well” is a matter of taste and “well” in this case is your taste

 

[rdale]

The problem with your reason is that your “go well” is a matter of taste and “well” in this case is your taste

By ‘go well’ I mean the combination of PrimaLuna/Klipsch sounds good according to all the reports I’ve read. Additionaly, the amp doesn’t have technical issues with the speaker load in practice, as you think it might from your ‘theory’.

 

[Fullrange]

Here we go again....

Measurement vs Perceived sound quality.

 

[rdale]

Here we go again....

Measurement vs Perceived sound quality.

I’m not against measurements, I just find it annoying when people purport to give advice when they have no practical experience of the kit in question.