The Blue Danube Waltz

[antonbhoy]

Does anyone know who composed the Danube Waltz, and is it part of a whole concerto, (is that the right term)? Also, I know various orchestra's will have played it, so is there any good recordings to be had?

 

[Umberto]

Johan Strauss composed it.

Better wait for Solid to come along

 

[SSM]

Umberto Vanni wrote:

Johan Strauss composed it.Better wait for Solid to come along

The children of Sweet Music are calling me!

To them I must fly!

Well um... :Not Sure:there is nothing I can offer on the history of Strauss' Blue Danube that can rival the comprehensiveness offered by several musicologists whom you could find online by Goggling. But I can certainly recommend a stonking performance of this immortal work on CD, which no other version can beat. This is Herbert von Karajan's and the Wiener Philharmoniker's 1987 New Year's Concert (recorded live). Perfection!

This now-legendary performance has an everlasting freshness to it. The Blue Danube has been played to death all over the world, but Karajan's 1987 gem will never tire out your ears.

SS

 

[Kingsley]

Ya just a hopeless Karajanite. His Danube is pure cotton candy kitsch. The best Danube comes from Carlos Kleiber and the Wieners at the 1992 NeuJahrsKonzert. The man takes it straight into the 21st century.

Over and out!:dude::dude::dude:

 

[earl of sodbury]

Kingsley wrote:

Ya just a hopeless Karajanite. His Danube is pure cotton candy kitsch. The best Danube comes from Carlos Kleiber and the Wieners at the 1992 NeuJahrsKonzert. The man takes it straight into the 21st century. Over and out!:dude::dude::dude:

Given that it was written in the early 19th Century with romantic and melodious intent, surely dragging it kicking and screaming into the 21st century is a bit like putting stockings and suspenders on your great grandma?

 

[Kingsley]

earl of sodbury wrote:

Kingsley wrote:

Ya just a hopeless Karajanite. His Danube is pure cotton candy kitsch. The best Danube comes from Carlos Kleiber and the Wieners at the 1992 NeuJahrsKonzert. The man takes it straight into the 21st century. Over and out!:dude::dude::dude:

Given that it was written in the early 19th Century with romantic and melodious intent, surely dragging it kicking and screaming into the 21st century is a bit like putting stockings and suspenders on your great grandma?

Ya the reason why everything is SOOOOO WRONG in the classical arena currently. Too many clueless socialites who ONLY want to hear the classics performed in the same manner as their great great forefathers. They don't want any visionary conductor to come along and shake up their preconceived notions. Get an imagination! The greatestpieces in classical music can AND MUST stand up tobeing rendered in a new and unsentimental fashion. Else we consumers are doomed, STUCK in a vicious cycle of endless waffling in <<traditional>> performances.

 

[earl of sodbury]

Kingsley wrote:

earl of sodbury wrote:

Kingsley wrote:

Ya just a hopeless Karajanite. His Danube is pure cotton candy kitsch. The best Danube comes from Carlos Kleiber and the Wieners at the 1992 NeuJahrsKonzert. The man takes it straight into the 21st century. Over and out!:dude::dude::dude:

Given that it was written in the early 19th Century with romantic and melodious intent, surely dragging it kicking and screaming into the 21st century is a bit like putting stockings and suspenders on your great grandma?

Ya the reason why everything is SOOOOO WRONG in the classical arena currently. Too many clueless socialites who ONLY want to hear the classics performed in the same manner as their great great forefathers. They don't want any visionary conductor to come along and shake up their preconceived notions. Get an imagination! The greatestpieces in classical music can AND MUST stand up tobeing rendered in a new and unsentimental fashion. Else we consumers are doomed, STUCK in a vicious cycle of endless waffling in <<traditional>> performances.

You see that tiny dot vanishing over the horizon?

That's your last clue... Bye bye little clue...

You confuse old music with new music.

Old music was writen a long time ago by people who have been dead for a long time. Most of them made it clear how it should be performed. Which was thoughtful.

New music is made by people who are still alive, and is full of all the fresh invigorating ideas that revisionist neophiliacs claim they want, yet avoid scruplously because they lack the imagination to embrace anything genuinely new. Instead they bolster the saggy baggy breastfedegos of conductors who have the arrogance to keep reinventing the wheel - naked emperors to a man.

Did you notice how close the word "neophiliac" is to the word "necrophiliac" - the latter likes to dig-up dead old things and use them in unsuitable ways...

Well, this rotten cunt must split - byeeeeeeee!

 

[SSM]

I can't believe people are fighting over... ... ...a waltz.

Get a life and listen to Richard Strauss's Rosenkavalier waltzes instead. These have real meat and bones and sentiment on 'em.

 

[earl of sodbury]

solidstateman wrote:

I can't believe people are fighting over... ... ...a waltz.

Get a life and listen to Richard Strauss's Rosenkavalier waltzes instead. These have real meat and bones and sentiment on 'em.

[Mister T] Not a waltz, fool, a principle; I don't even like the Blue Danube! [/Mister T]

eofs

 

[SSM]

earl of sodbury wrote:

solidstateman wrote:

I can't believe people are fighting over... ... ...a waltz.

Get a life and listen to Richard Strauss's Rosenkavalier waltzes instead. These have real meat and bones and sentiment on 'em.

[Mister T] Not a waltz, fool, a principle; I don't even like the Blue Danube! [/Mister T]

eofs

 

[JamPal]

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

 

[SSM]

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

My thoughts exactly.

 

[earl of sodbury]

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

 

[SSM]

earl of sodbury wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

To clarify, Kings was arguing on the assumption that Strauss's Blue Danube is a modern, ageless piece which can be adapted to a futuristic interpretation/performance. In thiscase, both of youare in agreement: because you also approve of novel approaches to 'new' musical works.

SS

 

[JamPal]

earl of sodbury wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

Fair Enough.

:mmmm:

 

[SSM]

hifiwigwam wrote:

earl of sodbury wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

Fair Enough.

:mmmm:

Wha?:shock:You're so easily swayed.

I'm so disappointed.

 

[JamPal]

solidstateman wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

earl of sodbury wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

Fair Enough.

:mmmm:

Wha?:shock:You're so easily swayed.

I'm so disappointed.

Well as much as the Earl couldn't give a flids arm about the Blue Danube, I coudn't give a midgets cock about an argument about the Blue Danube. Capiche?

 

[earl of sodbury]

hifiwigwam wrote:

solidstateman wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

earl of sodbury wrote:

hifiwigwam wrote:

The worst thing is they both said the same thing, just in different ways. :Not Sure:

Not so, in a nutshell - Rentybhoy was arguing for modern reinterpretations of established classics, while I attempted to make a case for performing them as the composer intended (e&oe) while insteadlooking for novelty in new musical works by modern composers.

Though I was arguing for the sheer hell of it TBH

Don't give a rat's arse about the Blue Danube... :raoflmfao:

Fair Enough.

:mmmm:

Wha?:shock:You're so easily swayed.

I'm so disappointed.

Well as much as the Earl couldn't give a flids arm about the Blue Danube, I coudn't give a midgets cock about an argument about the Blue Danube. Capiche?

Good thing we cleared that-one up.

Better let Anton have his thread back now, and I'd better go shakey snakey...

 

[antonbhoy]

Thanks for the relplies. When I get time at work, I'll google it and see what I find.