Small room means no quality deep bass ?

[ANADROL-50]

Is it a simple fact that, if your listening room is under a certain size, it is impossible to get quality deep bass reproduction from a system ?

 

[MVJ]

Good question! No it is'nt My room is 3.9m x 4.3m and my system gives me all the qualty bass I want and thats with a suspended wooden floor with a 5 foot deep void below it.

The trick is trying different speakers until you hit the sweet spot my first mistake was persisting with floor standers as trying to isolate them was impossible. Once I started down the standmount route the floor problem was solved. Once I got my Event Opal active monitors the bass and everything else has been spot on.

Very good bass can be achieved in a small room you just have to find the hifi that will give it to you and I think my Esoteric Pre has a lot to do with it also.

 

[MartinC]

Is it a simple fact that, if your listening room is under a certain size, it is impossible to get quality deep bass reproduction from a system ?

No. But as room size decreases, achieving this without also having distracting room mode resonances at particular frequencies increasingly necessitates the use of some form of EQ. 

 

[MVJ]

I also think removing a 4/5 seater settee that has been in my music room for many years to cater for others to listen to my hifi was a major step in getting my room sounding right.  I now have just one seat a Stressless Recliner & Foot stool as I realised 99% of the time I'm the only one listening.

Now no one is sat in a corner feeling/hearing any bass nodes mushing their ears & head it's the hot set or no seat these days.

 

[savvypaul]

I also think removing a 4/5 seater settee that has been in my music room for many years to cater for others to listen to my hifi was a major step in getting my room sounding right.  I now have just one seat a Stressless Recliner & Foot stool as I realised 99% of the time I'm the only one listening.

Now no one is sat in a corner feeling/hearing any bass nodes mushing their ears & head it's the hot set or no seat these days.

If someone else wants to listen, do you stand next to them with your arms folded and making a point of checking your watch? 

 

[MVJ]

Nah! I get out my very comfy folding chairs out and put them either side

 

[savvypaul]

Nah! I get out my very comfy folding chairs out and put them either side

 

[Nagraboy]

I had a home demo of the Dutch & Dutch 8c a few years ago and they delivered by far the best bass I’ve ever heard in any venue - and this was in a small flat.

 

[MVJ]

 

[MVJ]

I had a home demo of the Dutch & Dutch 8c a few years ago and they delivered by far the best bass I’ve ever heard in any venue - and this was in a small flat.

Blimey their not cheap & cheerful are they at over 8k

 

[garn63]

Think for me, once you accept the space you've got & its limitations you stop hankering for that old room you used to have that was better. Your right Steve about the settee but a lie down is v.important ?     I live in an old terraced house....but am not jealous of other folks Beverly Hills type choices ....honest ?

 

[savvypaul]

Blimey their not cheap & cheerful are they at over 8k

They come with the best graphs, though...

 

[MVJ]

Think for me, once you accept the space you've got & its limitations you stop hankering for that old room you used to have that was better. Your right Steve about the settee but a lie down is v.important ?     I live in an old terraced house....but am not jealous of other folks Beverly Hills type choices ....honest ?

It became the pooches day bed & I never got a look in I can lay down in myrecliner

 

[savvypaul]

I think there's also a difference between real bass and 'fart' bass - the later often comes with ports and passive radiators, ime.

 

[robbie010]

Is it a simple fact that, if your listening room is under a certain size, it is impossible to get quality deep bass reproduction from a system ?

My personal experience is quite the opposite. The boundary effect in my room reinforced the lower register rather than diminishing it. 

 

[MVJ]

They come with the best graphs, though...

I would'nt know a graph if it jumped up & bit me on the arse if I'm honest never looked at anything like that in my hifi journey to date :nup:

 

[MVJ]

I think there's also a difference between real bass and 'fart' bass - the later often comes with ports and passive radiators, ime.

I got the real thing daddio

 

[savvypaul]

I would'nt know a graph if it jumped up & bit me on the arse if I'm honest never looked at anything like that in my hifi journey to date :nup:

Good man

 

[tuga]

This book's is a good read:

Acoustics Of Small Rooms by Mendel Kleiner, Jiri Tichy

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Hpp_AwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acoustics-Small-Rooms-Mendel-Kleiner/dp/0415779308/