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[Kev]

I've just bought a SB classic from Mr Rabski and I'm starting to use it for streaming my CD's and going onto Spotify a bit later.

I'm taking things one step at a time trying to not make a mistake, so as yet I've only ripped 3 CD's using dBPoweramp. Thank you for the info Mr Gyro. Reading the posts, people seem to use a separate programme for tags. I can't see anything wrong with the tags that have been auto populated with dBPoweramp so am I missing something?

Next for me will be to rip a load more of my CD's and then get a NAS server which will run LMS as I'll use the house network to stream music to my other systems in the garage and kitchen. I've seen a thread covering the install of LMS with a NAS but can't find it. The object is to stream music and Spotify to my SB Classic + whatever else I buy later, without my PC on, so will a kind soul point me to the post or tell me what to get to achieve the result.

cheers

Kev

 

[Richardl10]

I use mp3tag or media monkey.

 

[Guest]

I used mp3tag as I had lots of music on my laptop from ages ago which had terrible tags or wrong tags.

I use EAC to rip to flac and never found a problem with its own tags.

 

[AmDismal]

With more advanced tag use you can get better ways of browsing. You start off with your own genres, and then a way to deal with compilations, and before you know it you are creating custom tags and cool ways of browsing your library. It becomes more important when you have a big library and are old enough to forget what music you have...

Re the NAS, iirc in order to stream Spotify to a SB Classic, you need the Triode Spotify plugin, which (again iirc) needs an intel processor. Not sure. Either way, if you want a NAS it's often best to get one with LMS pre installed. Much easier. That said, a used quiet laptop is pretty cheap nowadays...

 

[Kev]

Thanks for the replies. From what I gather then it doesn't matter much until I find the tags I want to use, which will become apparent as I use them, then I can get a specialist tag programme to change them if needed. Meantime then I'll just use dBPoweramp.

Can anyone advise a suitable NAS for use with LMS.

Kev

 

[chris217]

Re the NAS, iirc in order to stream Spotify to a SB Classic, you need the Triode Spotify plugin, which (again iirc) needs an intel processor. Not sure. Either way, if you want a NAS it's often best to get one with LMS pre installed. Much easier. That said, a used quiet laptop is pretty cheap nowadays...

Not sure this is the case. My Synology NAS is non-Intel and it runs the Triode plugin successfully.

 

[vacdac]

I was using a Netgear ReadyNas Duo until recently & these work very well with SBT's. The new Synology DS213 series are much better as an all round Nas solution tho' & IMV they would be far easier to get to grips with for a noob than Netgear & other more budget Nas solutions + they will run LMS no problem.

If you decide to look at the Netgears I'd look at the newer spec ones (*i.e. the 102 & not the Duo v1 or v2) as the processor power + RAM has been upped a little. If you also want to use the NAS for UPnP/DLNA media streaming for video streaming then go for summat with decent processing oomph. I've had big gains here with my C.A. SM6 Streamer + Google Nexus controller running Bubble UPnP & the stability/slickness & better functionality are a huge improvement running from the Synology DS213 over the Readynas Duo. The Synology U.I./S.W. package seems to be about the best in the game & everything is very easy to use & v simple to install add on packages & set up. :^

I discuss the Synology DS213 Nas in more detail in this recent thread>>>>> http://www.hifiwigwam.com

/forumdisplay.php?35-Computer-based-HiFi

The newer Synology Nas's are also whisper quiet & should be no issue if you have to site the Nas in your listening room.

A real bonus of the Synology Nas's is that they can output bit-perfect digital audio @ up to 24bit/96khz via the rear USB sockets. All that is needed is a plug n' play* USB to SP/dif converter or DAC (* Needs to work with native Linux USB audio drivers, preinstalled on the Synology NAS)

The advantage of this is that it allows you to use t' Nas as a local media player in another room if you are already running a streamer. I've been really impressed by the SQ of my little lash-up in my Bedroom system, which if anything sounds even better than the SBT I was previously using.

 

[Kev]

Excellent info thanks

I really don't know anywhere near enough to make an informed decision, so I'm reliant on others to point me in the right direction. I'll order a Synology DS213j. Looking at the specs it looks as if the DS213 doesn't do anything extra that I would use.

Is there anything I should be aware of when I setup the NAS for LMS with the Triode plugin? Or is it fairly straight forward?

cheers

Kev

 

[vacdac]

The 213J really does look to be seriously GVFM & will have more than enough processor 'poke' to run LMS very happily. Synology in their marketing blurb state that the full fat DS213 is the sweet spot in the range for price/performance & although it has the same RAM as the 213J it does have a significantly more powerful processor. For me this is more of an advantage as my C.A. SM6 streamer uses UPnP/DLNA & my recent experience in upgrading from the ReadyNas Duo has clearly demonstrated the need for a lot more processing grunt to run UPnP without issues.

I'm now actually finding Using Bubble UPnP to push music files over my LAN is actually even nicer/slicker to use than Squeezebox Commander with SBT. That's the rub really SBT running off LMS really doesn't need owt particularly special in terms of processing power/RAM to work extremely well. My file based music library is currently @ around 1500 albums & over 19,000 tracks & running off the old Netgear was never anything less than slick/stable/enjoyable to use.....the only caveat being that library rescans when adding to my collection were a little slow. UPnP really does seem to need a lot more processing grunt to work well though, I've been quite startled by all the minor annoyances marring my enjoyment of the SM6 having been sorted at a stroke since my NAS upgrade.

I think you'll find Installing LMS + the Triode Spotify Plugin on the DS213J super peazy.....The UI on t' Synology Nas's is a joy to use & all set up is very easy & navigating using the browser interface is very responsive & installing LMS is just done within this from the 'Package Centre'. I installed it myself on Saturday as I still have temporary custody of my 2nd SBT until I set it up with my old Nas fer me Da' next week.

I think you've already made a smart decision to go fer a Synology NAS & don't think you'll be disappointed I can't believe how horrid & clunky that the Netgears Raidiator* control panel/interface is in comparison & I've heard many 'mare' tales of how tricky some people find NAS setup. Whilst I'm geeky enough to happily work thru most IT problems I seem to encounter I do often despair at how unfriendly/clunky some stuff is to setup properly/well.

I'd have no hesitation in recommending Synology NAS's on this ground alone as they're extremely easy to use & really are as good as everyone says.

 

[Kev]

Ive just ordered the NAS and hard drives. I'll let you know how I get on Thanks for the info.

Kev