The Class A/B and D Conclusion UPDATE Luxman Arrival

[Rockchild]

I doubt if any one box could beat your superb set up .tread carefully

No harm in finding out. Personally, never been a fan of Accuphase, sonically or aesthetically.

 

[whitehart]

I doubt if any one box could beat your superb set up .tread carefully

I suspect you're right, but curious to hear a Luxman amp, particularly after reading all the love this one is getting.
Both brands are usually spoken about in the same breath, so would be good to judge for myself.
Mac

 

[hifinutt]

maybe ... but definately dont sell your lovely combo before you try

 

[George 47]

I have just uploaded my comparison of the Luxman D-10X and D-07X CD/SACD players and the Luxman 507Z and 509X amplifiers: https://www.hifiwigwam.com/threads/luxman-d-07x-and-d-10x-with-luxman-507z-and-509x.119288/

It is not the usual longer comparison as it was done in my friendly local dealers Audio Consultants, but you should get the gist of the sounds. It was a great afternoon and every combination worked really well but the best was........

 

[whitehart]

maybe ... but definately dont sell your lovely combo before you try

Not a chance!! It's taken me too long to get to this point to go backwards.
Mac

 

[CnoEvil]

Not a chance!! It's taken me too long to get to this point to go backwards.
Mac

Occasionally checking out the current competition is not a bad idea (especially as it's mostly for our benefit)....but if I had to predict the result, I would say that you would admire the Luxman, but not prefer it.

 

[whitehart]

I have just uploaded my comparison of the Luxman D-10X and D-07X CD/SACD players and the Luxman 507Z and 509X amplifiers: https://www.hifiwigwam.com/threads/luxman-d-07x-and-d-10x-with-luxman-507z-and-509x.119288/

It is not the usual longer comparison as it was done in my friendly local dealers Audio Consultants, but you should get the gist of the sounds. It was a great afternoon and every combination worked really well but the best was........

Really enjoyed the article, many thanks.
Mac

 

[Rockchild]

Really enjoyed the article, many thanks.
Mac

There are some deals to be had on some of the Luxman outgoing amps. I was offered a 590 class A demo for 6k and a heavy reduction on a 509 but I wanted the latest technology which makes a significant difference to the amp. Sometimes these reviews in a demo room don’t often show you the finer nuances that came across in say my room on my system. It was a tight call on the 507z or the outgoing 509 but either are great choices. I still got a great deal on the 507z mainly because of the issues I’ve had but I have stuck with my dealer and he has stuck with me.
@whitehart, Mac, do you still have the Harbeth Monitor 40’s?

 

[jobseeker]

I must admit to wondering about a 509AX II

 

[whitehart]

There are some deals to be had on some of the Luxman outgoing amps. I was offered a 590 class A demo for 6k and a heavy reduction on a 509 but I wanted the latest technology which makes a significant difference to the amp. Sometimes these reviews in a demo room don’t often show you the finer nuances that came across in say my room on my system. It was a tight call on the 507z or the outgoing 509 but either are great choices. I still got a great deal on the 507z mainly because of the issues I’ve had but I have stuck with my dealer and he has stuck with me.
@whitehart, Mac, do you still have the Harbeth Monitor 40’s?

I've got the 40.3XD's, probably my last speaker.
As much as I like class A, would never go back to it.
Mac

 

[Rockchild]

I've got the 40.3XD's, probably my last speaker.
As much as I like class A, would never go back to it.
Mac

Yes, I recall the faff but you got something rather special for the inconvenience. Before the Luxman choice, not one word of apology or interest from Exposure and since me talking about the issues with the 5010 pre, a few others have messaged me with the same or similar issues.

 

[CnoEvil]

I've got the 40.3XD's, probably my last speaker.

The specific use of the word "Probably" is noteworthy. Spoken like a true Audiophile.

 

[lowendall]

I’ve done 90dB before and I can assure you it gives a bigger soundstage and the room is 5m by 4m

I don't actually know but90 dB sound like it's going to be prity loud in a domestic space for full band music , I have in the past had a couple of sessions nice and loud when I had a much bigger room and playing along . To tracks .

 

[hiesteem]

It's a great pity for Exposure and potential customers, but I am curious as to why they are not acknowledging there's a problem.
Perhaps it's policy and are on the quiet.
I don't think they are the first audio company to deny a problem exists.

 

[whitehart]

Yes, I recall the faff but you got something rather special for the inconvenience. Before the Luxman choice, not one word of apology or interest from Exposure and since me talking about the issues with the 5010 pre, a few others have messaged me with the same or similar issues.

Yes, still can't believe how lucky I was... afraid once a Company lets me down, it takes something very special to win me round and Harbeth certainly did that.
Mac

 

[whitehart]

The specific use of the word "Probably" is noteworthy. Spoken like a true Audiophile.

Get behind me Cno! lol!
Mac

 

[whitehart]

It's a great pity for Exposure and potential customers, but I am curious as to why they are not acknowledging there's a problem.
Perhaps it's policy and are on the quiet.
I don't think they are the first audio company to deny a problem exists.

Agree and just as they seem to be gaining quite a favourable reputation too
Mac

 

[Rockchild]

Agree and just as they seem to be gaining quite a favourable reputation too
Mac

This thread will be helpful to anyone thinking of Exposure. The mono’s are something quite special and issues aside, the pre was able to demonstrate their ability much better than the integrated 3510 I was using as a pre before the 5010 pre arrived.
The Dealer and I concluded that it was definitely a gain issue (more so with XLR) and also an earthing problem. Not so with the remote operation, that was just an annoying clicking sound when you turned up the volume.
This was also apparent with the more costly 5010 mono’s
How a manufacturer can have the whole lot back, say they fixed it and come back exactly the same is a mystery to me.
My issue was duplicated at the dealers too.

 

[hiesteem]

This thread will be helpful to anyone thinking of Exposure. The mono’s are something quite special and issues aside, the pre was able to demonstrate their ability much better than the integrated 3510 I was using as a pre before the 5010 pre arrived.
The Dealer and I concluded that it was definitely a gain issue (more so with XLR) and also an earthing problem. Not so with the remote operation, that was just an annoying clicking sound when you turned up the volume.
This was also apparent with the more costly 5010 mono’s
How a manufacturer can have the whole lot back, say they fixed it and come back exactly the same is a mystery to me.
My issue was duplicated at the dealers too.

Yes it's just not good enough. When we part with this sort of cash, support is part of why I am paying a firm. It's also why I stay with Restek. I know their stuff is superbly made through 25 years of ownership. I am not convinced I would get that longevity from many manufacturers. I hope I am wrong because sound quality and build quality is what I look for in equipment.

 

[hiesteem]

Agree and just as they seem to be gaining quite a favourable reputation too
Mac

Yes they were back in the small list of quality UK designers. Hopefully they will come good, but sometimes it is for these reasons small manufacturers fold.